my best preflop fold ever

    • Saruniks
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      iPoker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      CO: $2.11
      BTN: $5.19
      SB: $4.01
      Hero (BB): $2.00
      UTG: $2.10

      SB posts SB $0.01, Hero posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has Q:club: Q:heart:

      UTG raises to $0.08, fold, fold, SB raises to $0.26, fold, UTG raises to $2.10, SB calls $1.84

      Flop: ($4.22, 2 players) 2:spade: 2:diamond: 3:diamond:

      Turn: ($4.22, 2 players) 7:spade:

      River: ($4.22, 2 players) 6:spade:

      SB shows A:diamond: Q:spade: (One Pair, Twos) (PreFlop 6%, Flop 6%, Turn 0%)
      UTG shows A:heart: A:club: (Two Pair, Aces and Twos) (PreFlop 94%, Flop 94%, Turn 100%)
      UTG wins $3.94


      what do you think?
  • 27 replies
    • luitzen
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      It really depends on how your opponents are playing. If SB (which I really doubt) and UTG are really tight players, then yes, definitely a good fold. But if both SB and UTG are maniacs, than you probably should've entered the pot as well.

      Remember that in poker good decisions are not good decisions because of how they turn out.
    • Saruniks
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      they were both nits, one (with AA) doesn't raise or call at all, I allways steal blinds from him, and 3beter doesn't raise often too. So I just folded that.

      was thinking about AK for best, but wasnt interested in going all in agaist that as there were possibility for AA or KK
    • ExMagnusxL
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      I agree with luitzen especially since you folded before the shove.

      A call or 4-bet would be better here before the shove, then a fold.

      I would definitely never put my queens all in on the micros with two villains preflop all-in.
    • Saruniks
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      411 hands so far, he is multitabling nit, plus this is micro, so wasn't expecting someone to allin with worse.
    • jdnismo
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      Originally posted by Saruniks
      plus this is micro, so wasn't expecting someone to allin with worse.
      Someone going all-in with worse is how a lot of money is made at micros.
    • Saruniks
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      Originally posted by jdnismo
      Originally posted by Saruniks
      plus this is micro, so wasn't expecting someone to allin with worse.
      Someone going all-in with worse is how a lot of money is made at micros.
      well, not at titan poker.
    • Joenaes
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      Nope its not the best fold ever.



      It's the most standard one.
    • Saruniks
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      Originally posted by Joenaes
      Nope its not the best fold ever.



      It's the most standard one.
      my best preflop fold ever

      I am fish, so... I don't think any other fish can fold that!
    • StoneJ
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      Originally posted by ExMagnusxL
      I agree with luitzen especially since you folded before the shove.

      A call or 4-bet would be better here before the shove, then a fold.

      I would definitely never put my queens all in on the micros with two villains preflop all-in.
      I totally agree, folding after the shove is fair enough, folding to the raise from the SB is awful imo.
    • Saruniks
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      Originally posted by StoneJ
      Originally posted by ExMagnusxL
      I agree with luitzen especially since you folded before the shove.

      A call or 4-bet would be better here before the shove, then a fold.

      I would definitely never put my queens all in on the micros with two villains preflop all-in.
      I totally agree, folding after the shove is fair enough, folding to the raise from the SB is awful imo.
      lol, he plays like a bot , when I am sb I min raise and he folds, and that's like 98% of times, he folds sb allways too, he multitables a lot, and I was shocked when I saw him raise, I said he would 4bet for sure, and he shoved after I folded. So...
    • Saruniks
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      plus by my poker tracker it was 1st time I folded QQ without putting money preflop, and it was ok for this time. So I gues it wasnt that awful :f_eek:
    • Saruniks
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      iPoker - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 4 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      UTG: $7.00
      BTN: $2.28
      Hero (SB): $2.07
      BB: $3.76

      Hero posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.03) Hero has K:diamond: K:club:

      fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.04, BB calls $0.02

      Flop: ($0.08, 2 players) 3:club: 9:spade: 7:heart:
      Hero bets $0.04, BB raises to $0.10, Hero calls $0.06

      Turn: ($0.28, 2 players) Q:spade:
      Hero checks, BB bets $0.14, Hero calls $0.14

      River: ($0.56, 2 players) 4:diamond:
      Hero checks, BB checks

      Hero shows K:diamond: K:club: (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 81%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
      BB shows J:diamond: J:spade: (One Pair, Jacks) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
      Hero wins $0.53

      5minutes ago.

      I minraised from SB like saying to myself, he will fold it anyway, and boom, he called like first time today, thought about pocket pair, on flop I was thinking about set, so I just called, but then, yeah, I gues he doesn't raise with JJ, so what can I beat with QQ then?
    • MatejM47
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      Well first hand it was a bad fold against SB since he showed up with AQ which you do have beat.

      And UTG doesn't only open AA and KK from UTG so imo its a bad fold against him as well since your way ahead of his utg range which is still at least 88+ and AQ+ so all in all its a horrible fold at that point. Obviously looking at the results you should fold anything but AA but in general your QQ are more then good enough to at least call and see what happens.
    • Saruniks
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      Originally posted by MatejM47
      Well first hand it was a bad fold against SB since he showed up with AQ which you do have beat.

      And UTG doesn't only open AA and KK from UTG so imo its a bad fold against him as well since your way ahead of his utg range which is still at least 88+ and AQ+ so all in all its a horrible fold at that point. Obviously looking at the results you should fold anything but AA but in general your QQ are more then good enough to at least call and see what happens.
      his open range is QQ+ AK (dunno about AK, never saw him playing with that)

      he limps with JJ, see last hand
    • Saruniks
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      people, can you read whole topic before commenting? please. thanks.
    • eteris
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      nice valuebetting with kings.
    • Saruniks
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      Originally posted by eteris
      nice valuebetting with kings.
      even nicer preflop play with JJ. I gues he was waiting so long for that to call minraise. didn't know that nits raise with overpairs


      you just can expect anything from those nits.


      ok, you just say what I can beat with KK in this spot if that was "nice" for you.
    • pogodon
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      easy fold with two players in the pot at BEST your againsT AK
    • Saruniks
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      Originally posted by pogodon
      easy fold with two players in the pot at BEST your againsT AK
      finally someone who agrees with me, thanks. Maybe I gave not many information. :f_cool:
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