[NL2-NL10] nl20 sh AKs trying to izolate lose player

    • aanty2000
      aanty2000
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      Titan No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10/$0.20BB (Titan HH Converter by Kreatief)

      CO ($20.65) (Hero)
      Button ($20.24)
      SB ($19.60)
      BB ($27.08)
      MP2 ($24.32)
      MP3 ($12.21)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with A:spade: , K:spade:
      1 folds, MP3 raises to $2.00, Hero raises All-In $20.65, 3 folds, MP3 raises All-In $12.21,

      Flop: Q:club: , T:spade: , 6:spade: ( $33.16 )


      Turn: 4:diamond: ( $33.16 )


      River: 2:diamond: ( $33.16 )


      Final Pot: $32.16
  • 11 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      True, you'll be committed on the flop. Especially that flop. :D

      But, I don't know, pushing AK is not a bad play IMO. You have some fold equity against small and middle pairs, If you get called you're only slightly behind or way ahead. Unless the guy has KK or AA.
    • aanty2000
      aanty2000
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      he was a maniac raising 2 every time . i wanted him to call
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Not sure if maniacs would call any two with your push. Normal re-raise to 6$ is better imo.
    • aanty2000
      aanty2000
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      fold is good too in this situation ... i dont want to reraise and dont hit nothing on the flop against a maniac
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      But a normal reraise to $6 would leave him on the flop with $6 left on a $12 pot, so your money is going to the middle anyway. Even If you don't hit anything, you probably still hold the best hand, and you won't be justifying him if he gets lucky on the flop.

      Worst case scenario is, he's holding pocket pairs and you donate a little more on the flop to him, that's why I think a push is not a bad play.

      But since he was raising every hand, it's very unlikely he has a pair, so a raise to $6 is better.

      And folding is a very bad play here, don't do it.
    • aanty2000
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      i was never thinking about folding ... he showed me kq .
    • rubysilesia
      rubysilesia
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      If u see aggressive player who likes to gamble preflop this move is perfect imo. U r way ahead of his range. Against KQs u were 70% favorite, pure profit.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
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      I would reraise and call his shove. The problem of pushing here is not that you are not ahead of his range, but that you may force him to fold weaker hands and that you may get called by a monster from opponents behind you.
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Originally posted by Thorsten77
      I would reraise and call his shove. The problem of pushing here is not that you are not ahead of his range, but that you may force him to fold weaker hands and that you may get called by a monster from opponents behind you.
      But wouldn't a push be good if he wasn't a maniac? I mean, you have some fold equity against middle pairs and even if you get called by QQ-22 you still have correct odds. And there are only 3 other players behind and only two hands you don't want to see AA and KK. Given that your hold one K and one A, it makes it even less probable that someone has AA or KK.
    • Thorsten77
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      Well, I think deception and balancing is not a big issue at these stakes but I would even start thinking about these topics at the lower stakes. Assume you have AA or KK - you would never push in such a situation, but typically reraise. Hence, people can get a read and exclude some hands from your range if you push directly. Reraising is basically similar to a push, as pocket pairs do not get set value. But, you are not that readable: you may have AK, but also AA or another strong hand. At the higher limits, you sometimes 3-bet with suited connectors which makes it even harder to get a read on us - so we 3-bet with a weaker hand but also with the strong hands; but we would never push with very weak and very strong hands...