Holdem in casinos against dealer

    • theguy
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      Hi
      has anyone played in casinos against dealers ? I've tried it 3 times (drunk) and I must say I did pretty well :D Maybe I was just really lucky but honestly the game seemed soooo easy. I just cant understand where's the catch ? Any thoughts on that ?
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    • MatejM47
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      How do you play against the dealer?? I mean if his dealing cards i don't think his actually allowed to participate in the hand.
    • zamoda
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      most likely it was oasis poker or something.. anyway, in that case a house has advantage against you, casino's aren't free money :)
    • Gerv
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      carribean stud where the house edge is 2.8% if you play GTO
      Its addicting tho :)
    • theguy
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      by "playing against dealer" I meant that He deals the whole cards to me and himself and I have to beat the cards that he has. He cant do anything but still... you got the point.
    • luitzen
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      It's not Texas Holdem.
    • zamoda
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      Originally posted by theguy
      by "playing against dealer" I meant that He deals the whole cards to me and himself and I have to beat the cards that he has. He cant do anything but still... you got the point.
      any more rules, I doubt that its all ..

      I bet you have to pay some antes or something like dealer must have a qualifying hand, etc, etc..
    • theguy
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      Yes you have to pay an ante in order for the hand to be dealt. When That's done you get your 2 whole cards dealer deals him/house 2 whole cards and the flop. If you think you can win this hand than you can bet your ante x2 and if the dealer/house has or will hit till the river anything stronger than a pair of fours (including) than you get paid the same amount that you paid for the "ante and the bet" x2, but if the dealer has something below a pair of fours than you get everything you put in so far + another original ante. When you hit something like a full house (I think they gave extra for a flush as well) you'll be funded something like 10x the bet (not sure whether it was 10x or a bit less for full house) your bet and if something stronger than full house than even more than 10x. You can only bet one time and that's on the flop and if you don't bet than thats' considered a fold. As far as I know there is nothing more.
    • Jafreiteris
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      The more far away from a casino game you are, the more you going to live a happy life . And if you say its a fun game, try to play without money
    • theguy
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      what do you mean without money ? As in when you lost everything or as in "try to ride a motorbike without fuel" ?
    • SPeedFANat1c
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      Originally posted by theguy
      what do you mean without money ? As in when you lost everything or as in "try to ride a motorbike without fuel" ?
      With motorbike you "loose" your money, but at least you don't ride motorbike to win money. With cards you play to win money. So better go ride with a motorbike :)
    • Hahaownedlolz
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      Originally posted by Jafreiteris
      The more far away from a casino game you are, the more you going to live a happy life . And if you say its a fun game, try to play without money
      trollololol?

      If you treat poker just like a fun game then you simply won't ever turn pro. Unless you love analyzing hands, reading strategy, watching poker videos etc. But i can't imagine many people actualy having a great time doing that.
    • godders248
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      Surely if you dont enjoy reading articles and watching videos and analyzing everything about your game being a pro isnt for you because your attitude towards the game and motivation to progress is limited to your attitude.

      i love everything about poker bad beats, suckign out, fish, startegy etc
      And when i aim to turn pro if i come with an already installed positive motivation to learn and gain knowledge and play my A game i give myself a better shot than someone who is negative tilts with every bad beat hates learning etc ill have an edge :)
    • ItsBeno
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      this seems very similar to 3 card poker, where you place an ante (the pure gambling part, just hoping your cards make a playable hand) and then optionally after seeing your cards get to choose to bet against the 3 cards the dealer has. You can also side bet for half flushes (all red or all black) and pairs i believe.
    • Gerv
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      Is it something like this?

      The rules are as follows.

      1. Play begins with each player making an ante wager.
      2. Two cards are dealt face down to each player and dealer. The player may examine his own cards. The dealer will also deal three communinity cards (called the flop) in the center of the table.
      3. Each player must decide to either fold or call. If the player folds he gives up his cards and his ante bet. If the player calls, the call must be equal to two times the ante bet.
      4. The dealer will then deal two more community cards, for a total of five. The dealer will also turn over his own two cards.
      5. The player hand shall be scored according the highest poker value of the player's two cards and the five community cards. Likewise, the dealer shall use his own two cards and the five community cards.
      6. The dealer must have a pair of fours or better to qualify. If the dealer does not qualify then the ante will pay according to the ante pay table below and the call bet will push.
      7. If the dealer qualifies and beats the player then the player will lose both the ante and call.
      8. If the dealer qualifies and the player beats the dealer then the ante will pay according to the Ante pay table below and the call bet will pay 1 to 1.
      9. If the dealer qualifies and the player ties the dealer then both ante and call bets will push.


      Ante Pay Table
      Hand Table 1 Table 2 Table 3
      Royal flush 20 to 1 25 to 1 100 to 1
      Straight flush 20 to 1 25 to 1 20 to 1
      4 of a kind 10 to 1 12 to 1 10 to 1
      Full house 3 to 1 3 to 1 3 to 1
      Flush 2 to 1 2 to 1 2 to 1
      All other 1 to 1 1 to 1 1 to 1


      Then with ''perfect play'' House edge is 2.16% but perfect play you have to raise around 80% of the time, fold 20%. In general these are when the player has two singletons in the hole that are low compared to the flop, with little or no chance for a straight or flush.
    • antonio47211
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      This is another card game that casinos offer (like blackjack or oasis poker or russian poker or .....). It is designed to give some edge to the house, and, ofc, you can't go allin with pocket aces preflop.