is this a downswing ?

    • theguy
      theguy
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      6 times I had KK and someone else had AA

      Loosing with the nut flushdraw against a guy who picked up a straightflush on the river

      Last approx. 12 times AK didn't hit anything

      I've lost my fullhouse's 68%

      When I suddenly pick up a pretty ok hands like top two pair + someone also pick's up a hand but somehow it usually turns out to be just a little bit better than mines and somehow it usually happens against players which play awful those makes the pots pretty big

      about 80% of the bluffs ( on good boards ) turn out to be in the wrong time, but the value bets somehow are highly respected. (my bet sizes are ok)

      I must say I am really really panicked and scared when I get two pair or a set. Really... it's not like I tend to overpay them but still... there is some betting going around when you get them, right ?

      Have I just been very lucky before and this is actually the normal way of poker ?
  • 14 replies
    • tcs35
      tcs35
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      It's probably a over exaggeration of the truth.
    • theguy
      theguy
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      what truth ?

      btw just lost with AA againstg KT showing PF and QQ against Q8
    • tcs35
      tcs35
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      You are exactly what I was like a year ago. Making shitty posts about bad beats looking for some attention. No one cares it happens to everyone, you are no different from the rest. The sooner you realise that you might become a better poker player.
    • TiciBoy
      TiciBoy
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      As Toby said...it happens to everyone eventually...
      Keep playing your A game, read articles and watch videos, and you will be OK. If you are not sure how to play some hands...post them in the evaluation forums...it will be way more productive than wining about bad beats and suckouts... ;)

      GL :f_cool:
    • Econom1sta
      Econom1sta
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      Originally posted by TobyCS
      You are exactly what I was like a year ago. Making shitty posts about bad beats looking for some attention. No one cares it happens to everyone, you are no different from the rest. The sooner you realise that you might become a better poker player.
      +1.
    • mariojuricvk
      mariojuricvk
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      Joined: 22.01.2011 Posts: 1
      I agree with first post. When u are winning big time, next day u lose everithyng posiblle, u have feeling its rigged.. Thats sad, and thats not poker :(
    • theguy
      theguy
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      i guess your right. but then you must know how it feels and it's hard not to freak out.


      [img]http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ0Mw3J-Sz_WciGDfo-0d5z4r4jXo3hDOwZTtvQs5Xmu6fB_aFQ[/img]
    • nightshades
      nightshades
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      That's poker baby !

      If you are getting scared and panicked with flopping a set or two pairs, maybe you don't have the nerves necessary to be a good player ? Just saying...
    • theguy
      theguy
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      That's just yesterday and today. People do get superstitious in these spots
    • OZSA
      OZSA
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      im telling you what i had just today to make you feel a little bit better

      1. 1st hand of the day, double stack.yay . villain is 44/30 lol..

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $46.88
      SB:
      $19.90
      BB (Hero):
      $20.00
      MP1:
      $17.81
      MP2:
      $21.09
      MP3:
      $10.11
      CO:
      $18.90


      Preflop: Hero is BB with K, K.
      3 folds, CO raises to $0.30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, CO raises to $18.90, Hero calls $17.90.

      Flop: ($37.85) 5, Q, 8 (2 players)


      Turn: ($37.85) 3 (2 players)


      River: ($37.85) 9 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $37.85.
      Results follow:

      CO shows a pair of aces(A A).
      Hero shows a pair of kings(K K).

      CO wins with a pair of aces(A A).

      2. Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP1:
      $15.69
      MP2:
      $10.00
      MP3:
      $10.36
      CO:
      $27.53
      BU:
      $10.50
      SB (Hero):
      $10.00
      BB:
      $9.24
      UTG1:
      $6.21
      UTG2:
      $3.57


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, A.
      UTG1 calls $0.10, 3 folds, MP3 raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero raises to $1.30, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.90.

      Flop: ($2.8) Q, 6, 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.50, MP3 raises to $4.00, Hero raises to $8.70, MP3 calls $4.70.

      Turn: ($20.2) 6 (2 players)


      River: ($20.2) 6 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $20.2.
      Results follow:

      MP3 shows a full-house, queens full of sixs(Q Q).
      Hero shows a full-house, sixs full of aces(A A).

      MP3 wins with a full-house, queens full of sixs(Q Q).

      3. Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $11.81
      CO:
      $10.25
      BU:
      $3.29
      SB:
      $9.80
      BB:
      $10.55
      MP1 (Hero):
      $10.36
      MP2:
      $10.65


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, A.
      Hero raises to $0.35, 5 folds, BB calls $0.25.

      Flop: ($0.75) 3, K, 6 (2 players)
      BB bets $0.70, Hero calls $0.70.

      Turn: ($2.15) T (2 players)
      BB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10.

      River: ($6.35) 2 (2 players)
      BB bets $5.90, Hero calls $5.90.

      Final Pot: $18.15.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of aces(A A).
      BB shows three of a kind, sixs(6 6).

      BB wins with three of a kind, sixs(6 6).

      4. Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $10.00
      BB:
      $3.50
      MP1:
      $26.34
      MP2:
      $7.19
      MP3:
      $10.00
      CO (Hero):
      $10.00
      BU:
      $9.65


      Preflop: Hero is CO with A, A.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.35, 2 folds, BB raises to $1.10, Hero raises to $10.00, BB calls $2.40.

      Flop: ($13.55) 8, 8, T (2 players)


      Turn: ($13.55) J (2 players)


      River: ($13.55) 2 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $13.55.
      Results follow:

      BB shows a flush, ace high(K A).
      Hero shows two pairs, aces and eights(A A).

      BB wins with a flush, ace high(K A).

      5. double stack again
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $9.52
      MP1:
      $18.10
      MP2 (Hero):
      $20.00
      MP3:
      $10.34
      CO:
      $10.35
      BU:
      $10.00
      SB:
      $23.04


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with 6, 6.
      MP1 raises to $0.40, Hero calls $0.40, 4 folds, BB calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($1.25) 8, J, 6 (3 players)
      BB checks, MP1 bets $1.10, Hero raises to $3.50, BB folds, MP1 calls $2.40.

      Turn: ($8.25) 3 (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $5.00, MP1 raises to $14.20, Hero calls $9.20.

      River: ($36.65) 4 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $36.65.
      Results follow:

      MP1 shows three of a kind, eights(8 8).
      Hero shows three of a kind, sixs(6 6).

      MP1 wins with three of a kind, eights(8 8).

      6. Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG2:
      $4.53
      MP1:
      $4.64
      MP2:
      $10.00
      MP3:
      $12.38
      CO:
      $10.00
      BU:
      $15.08
      SB (Hero):
      $10.00
      BB:
      $10.00
      UTG1:
      $10.76


      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7, 7.
      3 folds, MP2 raises to $0.30, 2 folds, BU calls $0.30, Hero calls $0.25, BB folds.

      Flop: ($1) T, K, 7 (3 players)
      Hero checks, MP2 bets $0.60, BU calls $0.60, Hero raises to $2.50, MP2 raises to $5.00, BU folds, Hero raises to $9.70, MP2 calls $4.70.

      Turn: ($21) J (2 players)


      River: ($21) T (2 players)


      Final Pot: $21.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a full-house, sevens full of tens(7 7).
      MP2 shows four of a kind, tens(T T).

      MP2 wins with four of a kind, tens(T T).

      and lemme count, 4 AA that were pre allin vs KK twice and QQ twice (lost them all ofc) also 6 KK pre ai (4 times AA, twice QQ lost all)

      this was about 6-7 hours of playing...feeling better? there there, it will pass..
    • funktor
      funktor
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      Joined: 10.08.2008 Posts: 922
      Be honest with us :P and show us your winning line and your all-in expected winnings?

      These 2 are going to be close each other in long term...

      And later on, no worries, you will ship your 666 to 888 and hit your 6, etc. That just sometimes happens...

      Funktor
    • teddykgv47
      teddykgv47
      Basic
      Joined: 25.12.2010 Posts: 94
      Originally posted by TobyCS
      You are exactly what I was like a year ago. Making shitty posts about bad beats looking for some attention. No one cares it happens to everyone, you are no different from the rest. The sooner you realise that you might become a better poker player.
      What an utterly useless post.

      What kind of "advice" is this to give to a newcomer? And what kind of a way of talking to someone who hasn't even offended you in the slightest?

      You say you experienced the same thing a year ago. Then you must know that he is currently unable to determine if what he is experiencing is a downswing or simply bad play on his part, and that this can leads to tons of self-doubt. Do you think the best thing to tell him right now is that he is an attention whore?

      To the original poster:

      Yes, it is most likely a downswing, but you need to post some of your hands in the forums so that other, more experienced players, can take a look and tell if it was really bad luck, or simply bad play. It is hard to say that from just "Kings got beat by aces."
    • tcs35
      tcs35
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      Joined: 31.01.2009 Posts: 3,583
      Originally posted by teddykgv47
      Originally posted by TobyCS
      You are exactly what I was like a year ago. Making shitty posts about bad beats looking for some attention. No one cares it happens to everyone, you are no different from the rest. The sooner you realise that you might become a better poker player.
      What an utterly useless post.

      What kind of "advice" is this to give to a newcomer? And what kind of a way of talking to someone who hasn't even offended you in the slightest?

      You say you experienced the same thing a year ago. Then you must know that he is currently unable to determine if what he is experiencing is a downswing or simply bad play on his part, and that this can leads to tons of self-doubt. Do you think the best thing to tell him right now is that he is an attention whore?

      To the original poster:

      Yes, it is most likely a downswing, but you need to post some of your hands in the forums so that other, more experienced players, can take a look and tell if it was really bad luck, or simply bad play. It is hard to say that from just "Kings got beat by aces."
      haha. you don't even deserve a response, I will let nightfrostass troll you, here baby
    • Alficor1
      Alficor1
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      Joined: 16.06.2010 Posts: 7,291
      Who told people that losing with AA vs KTo is threadworthy? I feel the same as TobyCS. I dont care.

      Oh and yeah, you're probably on a downswing. Its not that hard to figure out.