[NL2-NL10] NL2 QQ preflop fold

    • becky1464
      becky1464
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.11.2010 Posts: 108
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG2:
      $0.22
      MP1:
      $2.91
      MP2:
      $0.44
      MP3:
      $1.04
      CO:
      $4.97
      BU:
      $0.84
      SB:
      $2.10
      BB (Hero):
      $3.40


      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
      UTG2 calls $0.02, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0.02, CO folds, BU calls $0.02, SB raises to $2.10, 4 folds, 3 folds, 2 folds, BU folds, SB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $0.08.

      i had 75hands on him and he was 4/4, with him being so tight i decided to fold, good choice?
  • 6 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello becky1464,

      Of course it's totally fine not to take the flip sometimes and maybe even far behind. So therefore ain't a mistake, we haven't invested anything into the pot.

      Just a small example about the range I guess he can be shoving:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 47,629% 46,252% 2,755% 50,994% TT+, AKs, AKo
      Player 2: 52,371% 50,994% 2,755% 46,252% QQ

      Best regards.
    • diversfx
      diversfx
      Silver
      Joined: 24.12.2010 Posts: 627
      I would be tempted to fold aces, taking variance into play let them have 6 cents.
      Better to raise than call
    • Duudalinja
      Duudalinja
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.12.2009 Posts: 1,030
      Howdy,

      I would be tempted to fold aces


      Do you mean you would fold AA in this spot? ?(

      Good luck!
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by diversfx
      I would be tempted to fold aces, taking variance into play let them have 6 cents.
      Better to raise than call
      Nah, no way I am going to fold KK and AA in this situation. I really say that sometimes even if we for example are against a maniac I am most of the time Calling here but here for the given reason that the opponent was playing only 4/4 I decided to fold it, but no way I am going to fold AA in this spot.

      For example if he has like KK, look our equity against him. :)

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 81,946% 81,715% 0,463% 17,823% AA
      Player 2: 18,054% 17,823% 0,463% 81,715% KK

      We win 82% of the time, so go broke! There is no variance at all involved. :) You will not find a better spot to go broke preflop.
    • Duudalinja
      Duudalinja
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.12.2009 Posts: 1,030
      Hah, I thought I misread or misunderstood, but it seems veriz understood it the same way and already said everything. If you plan folding AA against an openshove, what kind of hands you are going to call with? :rolleyes:
    • diversfx
      diversfx
      Silver
      Joined: 24.12.2010 Posts: 627
      Said tempted,no I would not fold aces or kings either.