[NL2-NL10] NL10 SH KJs can I call preflop?

    • SPeedFANat1c
      SPeedFANat1c
      Gold
      Joined: 04.01.2009 Posts: 5,068
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($3.09)
      BB ($13.56)
      UTG ($10)
      UTG+1 ($7.66)
      Hero ($14.64)
      BTN ($15.09)

      Dealt to Hero J:club: K:club:

      UTG raises to $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, fold, fold, fold, fold


      UTG: 28/21/1.7, cbet 50, WTS 28, 163 hands

      UTG+1: 45/11/1.9

      BTN: 17/7
      SB: 46/18
      BB 15/11/0.6 65 hands

      Can I call there for flushdraw? BTN is tight pasive, probably he will fold most often so I will have a position.
  • 4 replies
    • tryhardnoob
      tryhardnoob
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.12.2010 Posts: 1,287
      no.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello SPeedFANat1c,

      Actually it should be doable, of course you have to be cautious postflop and not play just for like TP or whatsoever. Also you are able to hit straights as well. Plus we have positions on them. Although it also depends how good you playing such hands in calling pots, you could for example check your database for that. If not that good then rather just fold it.

      Best regards.
    • tryhardnoob
      tryhardnoob
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.12.2010 Posts: 1,287
      Can you explain this in pottodds or implied pottodds.

      I say we have asbout 3:1 in implied pottodds here. But are our odds really that good?

      90+65=155
      155-30= 125
      125:30
      4.16667..:1
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by tryhardnoob
      Can you explain this in pottodds or implied pottodds.

      I say we have asbout 3:1 in implied pottodds here. But are our odds really that good?

      90+65=155
      155-30= 125
      125:30
      4.16667..:1
      Pot = 0,75
      To Call = 0,3

      Equity needed: To_Call/(Pot+Call) = 0,3/1,05 = ~28,6%

      And now go play around with equilator and see what kind of equity we get against them 3. We need 28,6%. :) Just have to be sure that you don't do mistake postflop. Also we could take a lot more things into consideration not only the equity, therefore I see that the Call is totally doable, if we can play our hand postflop perfectly but I wouldn't advice that for beginners since they often tend to overplay their TP type of hands.