[NL2-NL10] NL10 KK deep against donk

    • nktns
      nktns
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 452
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      SB ($14.69)
      BB ($21.31)
      UTG ($28.53)
      UTG+1 ($17.10)
      CO ($12.12)
      Hero ($21.64)

      Dealt to Hero K:diamond: K:spade:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.35, fold, Hero raises to $1.20, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.85

      FLOP ($2.55) 2:heart: 7:spade: 6:spade:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $1.50, UTG+1 calls $1.50

      TURN ($5.55) 2:heart: 7:spade: 6:spade: 7:club:

      UTG+1 bets $5, Hero calls $5

      RIVER ($15.55) 2:heart: 7:spade: 6:spade: 7:club: A:diamond:

      UTG+1 bets $9.40 (AI), Hero ???

      vpip: 50, pfr: 33, af: 2.0, 6 hands - more like unknown.

      I'm pretty lost in this. Again could cbet more but i thought that i should get in by river, so didnt bother making it more.
      Problem starts at turn. I have no damn idea why is he donkpotting and i still cant my head around what hand he possibily donk like that? AsKs is not possible AsQs - possible but i think he would raise/donk it on flop, same goes for set, i think he raise them on flop. i call just because i dont think he has many 22/66 and he may bet 99-QQ like this and dont think hes drawing too often. when i called this i was going to call a shove on almost every river.

      River aint the best card but still does he play Ax this way? Doesnt make much sense but im not sure if hes shoving now smaller pockets.
      how do you think?
  • 3 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello nktns,

      For the reason that we are against unknown, I don't really like the Call on river, I'd just fold there. Turn Call should be somewhat be fine, although when even we were vs known opponent and he is tighter, I sometimes I even prefer to fold it there with good reads. Just curious, what did he have then?

      One reason is also that we are so deep, and often times I don't really expect them to turn kinda crazy like that being so deep, more often they do have a hand what they are representing and often times it beats us. Maybe even 7x.

      Best regards.
    • nktns
      nktns
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.10.2009 Posts: 452
      I folded river, so i dont know what did he have.
      if he was nit i would fold turn but no he seemed a bit loose but that may be wrong impression so called but still not sure about it when he decides to pot it. Would call be possible if river wasnt an A?
      anyway, thanks.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by nktns
      I folded river, so i dont know what did he have.
      if he was nit i would fold turn but no he seemed a bit loose but that may be wrong impression so called but still not sure about it when he decides to pot it. Would call be possible if river wasnt an A?
      anyway, thanks.
      It would be very close, I might even sometimes prefer to fold. Just for the reason that it's often when fishes pick such a line they are having the hand what they are representing and likely trips/FH or whatever. I don't think that the Ace on river changed much.