[NL2-NL10] NL2, TT , -EV play, why ?

    • SneakyhanD
      Joined: 29.10.2007 Posts: 700
      $0.01/$0.02 No Limit Holdem
      8 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by weaktight.com

      UTG Hardboiledmen ($2.02)
      UTG+1 Smith 1177 ($1.34)
      MP1 nickvip ($1.08)
      MP2 DexterM123 ($3.40)
      CO Psicoleite ($2.10)
      BTN Porceveer ($2.05)
      SB chreis1983 ($0.58)
      BB Hero ($2.15)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.03, 8 players) Hero is BB 10:club: 10:heart:
      Hardboiledmen calls $0.02, Smith 1177 raises to $0.04, 2 folds, Psicoleite calls $0.04, 1 fold, chreis1983 calls $0.03, Hero raises to $0.16, Hardboiledmen calls $0.14, Smith 1177 folds, Psicoleite calls $0.12, chreis1983 folds

      Flop: 7:club: 4:spade: 7:heart: ($0.56, 3 players)
      Hero bets $0.30, Hardboiledmen folds, Psicoleite calls $0.30

      Turn: 9:club: ($1.16, 2 players)
      Hero bets $0.60, Psicoleite goes all-in $1.64, Hero calls $1.04

      River: 3:heart: ($4.44, 2 players, 1 all-in)

      Final Pot: $4.44
      Psicoleite shows a pair of Sevens
      6:club: A:club:
      Hero shows two pair, Tens and Sevens
      10:club: 10:heart:

      Hero wins $4.15 (net +$2.05)

      Psicoleite lost $2.10
      chreis1983 lost $0.04
      Hardboiledmen lost $0.16
      Smith 1177 lost $0.04

      H'EM shows this is -EV play. can anybody explain what I did wrong here ?
  • 3 replies
    • gsergiul
      Joined: 26.11.2010 Posts: 234
      Because usually (vs non crazy fish that call with flushdraws) you're getting your all in called only by bigger overpairs / trip sevens or even worse a fuill boat.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello SneakyhanD,

      Preflop: I guess sometimes I even prefer just to Call here, just for the reason that those players are anyways too loose and often times we face an overcard on board and will have difficult decision. But 3betting is totally fine. But I guess while being OOP and so many limpers, I'd raise ~$0,30.

      As played
      Postflop: Seems to be fine, he may as well sometimes shove there with any kind of draw, or even PP, or as well 9x, so I don't mind going broke in 3bet pot with our hand.

      Hopefully we will see more hands from you in the future, seems like you still have a lot of leaks to fix.

      Best regards.
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      H'EM shows this is -EV play. can anybody explain what I did wrong here ?

      I don't know how HEM can show this -EV. If we have his hand we get this equity:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 75,000% 75,000% 0,000% 25,000% ThTc
      Player 2: 25,000% 25,000% 0,000% 75,000% Ac6c

      Therefore it should be +EV. :)