AA against push in early stages

    • Philipvw
      Philipvw
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      first hand SNG $33, stacks 1500
      UTG limps 20
      CO (Hero) AA raises 80
      UTG calls 80

      Flop (pot: 190) 932 rainbow

      UTG checks
      Hero bets 120
      UTG calls 120

      Turn (pot: 430) 932 5
      UTG bets All-In 1250

      Hero?
  • 11 replies
    • curnow
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      Why would you want to fold it to one player , at worst you will be 70/30

      The other thing is at that level what would he be pushing with , and would expect Ks , Qs and maybe AK
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
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      Originally posted by curnow
      Why would you want to fold it to one player , at worst you will be 70/30

      The other thing is at that level what would he be pushing with , and would expect Ks , Qs and maybe AK
      No, against a set you are 94-6

      But anyway, I would call here, because i would put his hand range on 99-AA/33/22/55
    • xordeh
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      to avoid these situations i often raise i bit more preflop and postflop.

      and i agree with hellemaalnicks
    • sw0ldo
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      id say A4 or mayb a set of 5's but id probably call it anyway
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
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      to avoid these situations i often raise i bit more preflop and postflop.


      I disagree with that! I've seen sooooo many top pair **** kickers on my aces and tptk, that i think it's +ev to make the standard Unam/PS-raise (sorry Unam) because you can go all in with them in the early stages about 50-70% of the time, and you come across a set 10% per set-limper, which is about 1/3 of total limpers, in my experience.

      That is in pokerstars 22 and 16turbo's...

      I don't know the difference between those and 33, but the difference between 11 and 22 is veeeeeery small.
    • xordeh
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      I just make the bigger raise, because i mostly get at least 1 or sometimes 2 or more callers and they mostly fold to my conti-bets. but thats my experience in 2 dollar sng's on titan (my BR doesnt allow higher buy ins).
    • helemaalnicks
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      Originally posted by jeroenguns
      but thats my experience in 2 dollar sng's on titan
      i seen different on higher limits.
    • curnow
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      Originally posted by helemaalnicks
      Originally posted by curnow
      Why would you want to fold it to one player , at worst you will be 70/30

      The other thing is at that level what would he be pushing with , and would expect Ks , Qs and maybe AK
      No, against a set you are 94-6

      But anyway, I would call here, because i would put his hand range on 99-AA/33/22/55
      Sorry , I am wrong , was refering to preflop

      with his limp/call preflop would not put him on small pair as most good players at this level , would look for odds , ie 5 players calling & looking to hit set

      would put him on suited connectors or mid pair

      is the standard sng or turbo , but still calling on turn & put him on semi bluff & him putting you on AK or something like that
    • SayYesWNA
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      It is hard to muck the Aces but I think you are beaten to the weel or a sett of 5s. If not he is bluffing, but without som info on the player (first hand) I would fold an kick his ass later in the game
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
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      Originally posted by SayYesWNA
      It is hard to muck the Aces but I think you are beaten to the weel or a sett of 5s. If not he is bluffing, but without som info on the player (first hand) I would fold an kick his ass later in the game
      But it's a s&g, that option is not available...
    • Unam
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      Villain has a set, and not 5s