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[NL2-NL10] nl4 set vs shove on river

    • theguy
      Joined: 16.07.2009 Posts: 215
      $0.02/$0.04 No Limit Holdem
      5 Players
      Hand Conversion Powered by

      UTG Aikon78 ($2.19)
      CO Skaade_91 ($3.34)
      BTN 2loop ($4.75)
      SB am1Iwinning ($4.02)
      BB Orrste ($2.07)

      Pre-Flop: ($0.06, 5 players)
      1 fold, Skaade_91 calls $0.04, 1 fold, am1Iwinning calls $0.04, Orrste checks

      Flop: 3:club: 7:heart: K:spade: ($0.14, 3 players)
      am1Iwinning checks, Orrste checks, Skaade_91 checks

      Turn: J:diamond: ($0.14, 3 players)
      am1Iwinning bets $0.10, Orrste calls $0.10, Skaade_91 calls $0.10

      River: Q:club: ($0.44, 3 players)
      am1Iwinning bets $0.32, Orrste folds, Skaade_91 goes all-in $3.20, am1Iwinning calls $3.20

      Final Pot: $6.82
      Skaade_91 shows

      am1Iwinning shows
      3:diamond: 3:spade:

      Skaade_91 wins $6.48 (net +$3.14)

      Orrste lost $0.14
      am1Iwinning lost $3.34

      I cant see anything but 77 that would seem logical
  • 2 replies
    • Duudalinja
      Joined: 21.12.2009 Posts: 1,030

      I'd just bet out on flop. We have to start building pot to get any value out of our hand.

      River is strange, but I think I'd lay it down as we haven't invested too much in this pot and it's pretty costly for us to call. We could expect him to raise TT+ preflop but anyway he stayed passive on flop and then just called turn multiway - I would expect him to show some resistance here if he has any made hand. So by river I'd say he could have AT or, as you said, strangely played higher set or something.

      Good luck!
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello theguy,

      Flop: The Check/Raise idea should be doable for the reason when we just Bet/Bet/Bet we wont get his whole stack. And therefore comes into play the Check/Raise. Also if we donk they will likely anyways fold worse hands and if they have a Kx here, they are willing to bet anyways.
      River: Just Bet/Fold, we don't beat much here with he is shoving, could easily have the straight here or whatsoever. Often times such shoves are with a very strong hand, rather than just TP/2pairs. Also we haven't invested much into the pot, ain't worth.

      Best regards.