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[NL2-NL10] Nl 10 J2o vs blinds

    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)      
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $1.90
      BB:
      $9.43
      Hero:
      $10

      0.05/0.10 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with 2:spade: , J:club: . Hero posts a blind of $0.10.
      5 folds, Hero checks, BU folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks.

      Flop: ($0.30) 5:diamond: , A:spade: , 8:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.20, 2 folds.

      Final Pot: $0.50

      Board is uncoordinated and both players checked (they didn´t checked like they would re-raise or they would going to bet on that flop). So I probably take down pot more than 60% with my standard bet.
      Any suggestions why i shouldn´t bet/fold with anything:)
  • 7 replies
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.09.2007 Posts: 7,195
      Any suggestions why i shouldn´t bet/fold with anythingsmile


      nope, i always wait for the bb though. I think the CO is not a nice place to start playing. Especially 9handed.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      nh
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
      Black
      Joined: 10.09.2007 Posts: 14,387
      Originally posted by helemaalnicks

      nope, i always wait for the bb though. I think the CO is not a nice place to start playing. Especially 9handed.
      http://www.pokerstrategy.com/strategy/fixed-limit/71/ :)
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.09.2007 Posts: 7,195
      i disagree, because the play from BU is worth more to me then 0.05 sb, so I think starting from BB is a better deal
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      I agree with helemaalnicks.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I just don´t want to wait on fullring game. I don´t think it is much -EV when I start from CO.
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2007 Posts: 4,736
      Well, it's not -EV at all.

      Normal situations :
      Wait until BB (10 handed) = -1.5BB for 10 hands = -0.15 BB
      Wait until BB (9 handed) = -1.5BB for 9 hands = -0.166 BB
      Wait until BB (6 handed) = -1.5BB for 6 hands = -0.25 BB

      Play from CO (10 handed) = -1BB for 7 hands = -0.14 BB
      Play from CO (9 handed) = -1BB for 6 hands = -0.166 BB
      Play from CO (6 handed) = -1BB for 3 hands = -0.33 BB
      Positions lost = SB, BB, CO

      Conclusion
      10 man table : The cutoff position is EV+
      9 man table : Cutoff position is EV0
      smaller tables : Wait until BB.

      Of course you miss the button position, but you also miss the 2 earliest positions as well. Nice trade off.

      Edit : Oh, just great, that article says the same thing... ah well, who needs'em when you figure it out for yourself :tongue: