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[NL20-NL50] NL50 SH 77 vs. 3bet

    • twinn1
      Joined: 09.03.2009 Posts: 2,268
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      SB ($65.97)
      BB ($68.80)
      UTG ($51.50)
      UTG+1 ($33.01)
      CO ($99.49)
      Hero ($66.79)

      Dealt to Hero 7:diamond: 7:heart:

      fold, fold, CO raises to $1.75, Hero calls $1.75, SB calls $1.50, BB raises to $9, CO calls $7.25, Hero calls $7.25, fold

      BB is 28/20/208 hands, 3bet: 5.0
      CO 15/10/1.5k hands

      So we are about 130BB deep. BB 3bet it really big so i put him on QQ+, AK. I have tou call 7.25 to 21.50, it's about 3:1. Also, i think most of time i would stack off BB if i hit my set. So it's 7.25 to 81.3, so my implied odds are about 11:1. I need 7.5:1 to hit set, right?
      Or if villain would fold his pocket pair to raise but before it he would CB about 18. So i have to call 7.25 to 46.75 (28.75 + 18) = 6.5:1.
      But most of time i think that i would stack off his pocket pair.

      I am not good in this math things.
      So is preflop call all right?
  • 3 replies
    • MatejM47
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,193
      You do get the odds according to math, but the question is do you always manage to stack him even if his range is QQ+/AK.

      He will miss with AK 2 out of 3 times and you also won't manage to stack him when he has QQ,KK on K and A high boards and you will only get action from CO when he hits a set and if you flop bottom set you pretty much have to fold against him which kinda sucks since untill you figure he has a better set you have half your stack in the pot already.

      Its also optimistic to think that he will C-bet his missed AK vs 2opponents this huge pot and is likely to C/F it as well.

      Simply put he made the 3-bet way to big for you to do anything other then fold.
    • Kaitz20
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I´d likely call, since you´re ip and sometimes can also win pot by not hitting your set. If he made that big then I think he may easily have AK and 77 is ahead that hand, so don´t really see reason why you should fold. You may not be ahead co range, but nevertheless pot is likely going to be huge and if you hit your 7x you can win 120$, so investing 7$ can´t be too bad investment.
    • BogdanPS
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      I think it's close because there are 2 players there but I'd most likely end up calling as well and play postflop. With 2 players in the pot your implied odds are going up. And as Kaitz said we might even have a chance to steal this pot away on certain cards.

      If it were HU I'd fold this hand.