[NL2-NL10] bad play or bad beat 4 hands 0.05/0.10

    • meater
      meater
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      Joined: 31.10.2007 Posts: 32
      Add Player: BU SB BB UTG+2 MP1 MP3 Hero MP2

      0.05/0.10 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by http://www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q :heart: , Q :spade:
      2 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, MP3 raises to $0.40, Hero raises to $1.85 (All-In), 4 folds, MP3 calls $1.45.

      Flop: ($3.95) K :diamond: , A :club: , J :heart:
      Turn: ($3.95) 5 :spade:
      River: ($3.95) 2 :club:


      Final Pot: $3.95



      Add Player: SB BB MP1 MP2 MP3 CO Hero

      0.05/0.10 No-Limit Hold'em (7 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by http://www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with K :club: , A :spade:
      MP1 folds, MP2 raises to $0.30, MP3 calls $0.30, CO folds, Hero raises to $1.85 (All-In), 2 folds, MP2 raises to $11.29 (All-In), MP3 folds.

      Flop: ($13.59) 3 :diamond: , 5 :heart: , 5 :spade:
      Turn: ($13.59) 5 :diamond:
      River: ($13.59) Q :heart:


      Final Pot: $13.59


      Add Player: CO BB Hero MP3 BU MP1 UTG+2 MP2

      0.05/0.10 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by http://www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is SB with K :club: , K :heart:
      UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $0.40, 4 folds, Hero raises to $1.60, BB folds, MP1 raises to $1.75 (All-In), Hero calls $0.15.

      Flop: ($3.60) 9 :diamond: , A :club: , Q :spade:
      Turn: ($3.60) T :diamond:
      River: ($3.60) 8 :club:


      Final Pot: $3.60


      Add Player: SB UTG UTG+1 UTG+2 MP2 MP3 CO BU Hero BB

      0.05/0.15 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by http://www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T :spade: , T :diamond: . CO posts a blind of $0.15. (Comment)
      UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.10, UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $0.50, MP2 calls $0.50, 4 folds, BB calls $0.40, UTG+1 raises to $10.68 (All-In), Hero raises to $1.70 (All-In), MP2 raises to $7.27 (All-In), BB raises to $1.60 (All-In).

      Flop: ($21.45) Q :spade: , 6 :diamond: , J :spade:
      Turn: ($21.45) 7 :heart:
      River: ($21.45) A :club:


      Final Pot: $21.45

      (Comment) thought i may as well since it was a big pot?



      i lost in all 4 pots one after the other X(
  • 8 replies
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      Joined: 12.07.2006 Posts: 5,644
      You played every hand correct. :)
    • Utahmar
      Utahmar
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      Its all ok. You are not alone, if that helps.
    • AndreMG
      AndreMG
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      Joined: 05.01.2007 Posts: 64
      Agree. I would play the same all these hands.

      The TT you could be behind, but due to your stack size and your raise size its ok to go all in, you have equity to push.
    • meater
      meater
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      Joined: 31.10.2007 Posts: 32
      cool just wanted to know i was doing so correctly thanks!
    • abundance211
      abundance211
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      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 151
      Berliner1982,

      I have a doubt about the 4th hand with the TT.

      The following is a quotation from the article "Shortstack strategy: Preflop game, React to raises behind me" (see the appendix at p.9)

      Question 14: Your stack at the beginning of a hand is $2.00. You have two tens and raise to $0.40. One opponent raises behind you. Do you go all-in?

      Answer b is correct. Your stack size : raise size ratio is $1.60:$0.40 or 4:1.

      4:1 is exactly the borderline which decides that you don't go all-in with two tens (TT). If you would have had jacks or better or if your stack would have been smaller or if your raise would have been bigger you would have to go all-in. (End of quotation).

      That's true that the pot is big, but there are two other players to react after me, so too many players at the pot any way. I would have fold.

      I would like to hear your opinion.

      Best regards

      abundance211
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Your stack: 1.2$
      Bet: 0.5$

      ratio 1.2:0.5 = 2.4 : 1 -> according to the strategy it is call...

      1) we call, players behind fold
      our odds are 2.3:1 -> we need to win in at least 30% of the time
      If we assume he was slowplaying a monster hand (which is not always true, since on this limit he could be overplaying hands like AQ-AJ )
      anyway, against JJ+, AKs, AKo we have 33% equity -> enough

      2) we call, 1 player behind calls
      odds: 3.3:1 -> need to win 23% of the time
      UTG range: JJ+, AKs, AKo
      Second caller: 22-99, AQs-AJs, KQs, AQo-AJo, KQo

      equity: 28% -> enough

      3) we call, two players behind call
      you need to win 18% of the time

      First I felt like you are playing for a set value here, which means that you don`t have enough equity. But if we assume those 3 ranges:

      PL 1: JJ+, AKs, AKo
      PL 2: 22-99, AQs-AJs, KQs, AQo-AJo, KQo
      PL 3: 22-99, AQs-AJs, KQs, AQo-AJo, KQo

      then your equity is 25%, but if we assume UTG is holding AA-JJ, then it drops to 18%, which is still enough...
      Considering the limit, I would conclude that move is +EV in any scenario...
    • Berliner1982
      Berliner1982
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      @abundance

      But we also have dead money in the pot, that allows us to call here as well. With that huge Re-raise from UTG+1, we might could assume that everybody else will fold. Even if not, we still have a chance to win big here.

      If you feel uncomfortable to fold here, its ok as well, but their is a chance that we are ahead against an underpair to our Pocket TT from UTG+1. We will make a note after that hand about our opponents hand.
    • abundance211
      abundance211
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      Thank you both xylere and Berliner1982 for your answers.

      I am at the very beginning of the NL ring games and learning a lot from your comments.

      Good luck to every body and Merry Christmas