[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL25 Rush 107s IP

    • jozata
      jozata
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.07.2008 Posts: 646
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BU (Hero):
      $29.51
      SB:
      $62.69
      BB:
      $49.35
      MP2:
      $49.47
      MP3:
      $6.09
      CO:
      $53.12


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 7, T.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, SB calls $0.65, BB folds.

      Flop: ($1.75) 8, 2, 9 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1.25, SB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.00.

      Turn: ($8.25) 3 (2 players)
      SB bets $5.50, Hero calls $5.50.

      River: ($19.25) Q (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      Final Pot: $19.25.

      Villain-unknown. Should I have folded on the turn? Should I have bet the river after his check? I didnt bet it because he played the hand thus far strong and I thoght he was trying to induce me to bluff on my busted draw.Suggestion how the hand should b played?
  • 7 replies
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      Considering you are drawing to 6 clean outs (8 total only) I'm not a huge fan of the turn call.

      But if you do call the turn and villain checks the river I think we should definitely bet. We have T high and we are rarely winning this hand (we bet 76 and 56 maybe). I don't think a 25nl player will be this tricky to go for a ck/raise on the river although he might ck/call TT-JJ type hands if he raised them (which I doubt he does).

      I'd bet ~10-11 or so to get him to fold 8x flush draws and Ax flush draws. Remember your range can have overpairs as well like TT-AA that don't want to stack off so you do have some type of value range.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I´d likely still call turn, since I have position and he can also have draws that he might easily c/f river.
      I´d bet river 11$ to get him fold his bigger fd. Likely he won´t fold two pair or Qx even if you shove river
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello jozata,

      I'd actually as well add that I'd just fold it on turn, I don't really like to Call there while we have only 6 clean outs. And what to do when a flush card comes? We will be in very ugly shape while he could easily be playing this way his FDs as well.

      Best regards.
    • jozata
      jozata
      Bronze
      Joined: 30.07.2008 Posts: 646
      Well, he had AJo :)
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by jozata
      Well, he had AJo :)
      yeah thatś why I don´t like folding turn. Players just making too many moves random hands that would often c/f river
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by jozata
      Well, he had AJo :)
      That's why also Calling on turn is wrong, since we don't get the correct implied odds, we wont get his stack on river (we likely only float him to take down the pot on river). And as you played this way you have to take stab on river, you wont win it otherwise.
    • BogdanPS
      BogdanPS
      Basic
      Joined: 12.05.2010 Posts: 27,588
      So thus the bottom line I think is:

      If you Call turn, and board runs out like this bet river :)