# could anyone explain my graph?

• Bronze
Joined: 12.02.2011
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• Bronze
Joined: 12.02.2011
i would like from someone to explain my graph from the beggining till the end
• Bronze
Joined: 03.10.2010
down up, up, down, up, down, up,up, up, up, down, up, up, down, up, down, up, up

hope that helps
• Bronze
Joined: 12.02.2011
• Bronze
Joined: 02.08.2009
u played 25 tournaments and won 83 dollars

hope that helps
• Bronze
Joined: 21.02.2011
what site are u playn on that lets u check that? does party and poker stars?
• Bronze
Joined: 12.02.2011
pokerstrategy full of jerks
• Bronze
Joined: 05.10.2008
ehm.. im no troll.. but this is a bit too much even for me

ur graph is unexplainable..
• Bronze
Joined: 05.10.2008
Originally posted by belthazorrrr
pokerstrategy full of jerks
Sorry its just ur thread kinda attracts trolling..

What exactly would you like to be explained about ur graph? Clearly this graph shows the tournies you have played and it goes down when you lost monies and it goes up when you won monies

The redline shows EV(expected value) which im not sure how exactly is calculated for tournies and im not sure how reliable that is for sngs
• Bronze
Joined: 06.05.2008
this graph shows that you have played 16 tournaments for a total profit of \$27.50

also, isildur1 would like to play u HU4Rollz
• Bronze
Joined: 12.02.2011
The redline shows EV(expected value) which im not sure how exactly is calculated for tournies and im not sure how reliable that is for sngs ....
this is what i would like from someone to explain me..how ev calculated and what it means
• Bronze
Joined: 06.05.2008
see, thats a much better question to ask

EV is your expected value, which basically shows you your profit before luck is factored in. i'm not 100% sure how it's calculated for SNG's, but i'll give you a cash game example

I have AA, and go all in for \$100 pre flop and get called by KK who has me covered. i am approx a 82% to win the hand and to win the \$200 pot (lets assume we were in the blinds and there's no rake for simplicity)

My Green Line in my graph will either go up by \$100 or down by \$100 dependant on if i win the hand or not. however, regardless of this, my equity in the hand is +\$64 (as i am an 82% favorite to win a \$200 pot.

i would assume for sng/tournament the ev would take into account payouts and be similar to an ICM calculation based on the hand you are eliminated from the tournament
• Black
Joined: 21.01.2010
Originally posted by AlCaTrAzzALZ
see, thats a much better question to ask

EV is your expected value, which basically shows you your profit before luck is factored in. i'm not 100% sure how it's calculated for SNG's, but i'll give you a cash game example

I have AA, and go all in for \$100 pre flop and get called by KK who has me covered. i am approx a 82% to win the hand and to win the \$200 pot (lets assume we were in the blinds and there's no rake for simplicity)

My Green Line in my graph will either go up by \$100 or down by \$100 dependant on if i win the hand or not. however, regardless of this, my equity in the hand is +\$64 (as i am an 82% favorite to win a \$200 pot.

i would assume for sng/tournament the ev would take into account payouts and be similar to an ICM calculation based on the hand you are eliminated from the tournament
Actually if you get it in with 82% equity with AA then your EV is +82\$ not +64\$.

And EV line for SNGs is way more complicated to calculate since it takes into account your hand equity, your tournament equity based on your stack size and your opponents stack sizes and the pay out structure.
• Bronze
Joined: 06.05.2008
gotta stop posting when too tired to figure out if i was correct or not in a simple ev calc...
• Bronze
Joined: 18.12.2009
Originally posted by MatejM47
Originally posted by AlCaTrAzzALZ
see, thats a much better question to ask

EV is your expected value, which basically shows you your profit before luck is factored in. i'm not 100% sure how it's calculated for SNG's, but i'll give you a cash game example

I have AA, and go all in for \$100 pre flop and get called by KK who has me covered. i am approx a 82% to win the hand and to win the \$200 pot (lets assume we were in the blinds and there's no rake for simplicity)

My Green Line in my graph will either go up by \$100 or down by \$100 dependant on if i win the hand or not. however, regardless of this, my equity in the hand is +\$64 (as i am an 82% favorite to win a \$200 pot.

i would assume for sng/tournament the ev would take into account payouts and be similar to an ICM calculation based on the hand you are eliminated from the tournament
Actually if you get it in with 82% equity with AA then your EV is +82\$ not +64\$.
Nop, AlCa was correct. In the example he is expected to win 164\$ (disregarding rake) and since he invested 100\$, EV line will go up by 64\$.
• Bronze
Joined: 05.10.2008
Originally posted by malosanmaka
Originally posted by MatejM47
Originally posted by AlCaTrAzzALZ
see, thats a much better question to ask

EV is your expected value, which basically shows you your profit before luck is factored in. i'm not 100% sure how it's calculated for SNG's, but i'll give you a cash game example

I have AA, and go all in for \$100 pre flop and get called by KK who has me covered. i am approx a 82% to win the hand and to win the \$200 pot (lets assume we were in the blinds and there's no rake for simplicity)

My Green Line in my graph will either go up by \$100 or down by \$100 dependant on if i win the hand or not. however, regardless of this, my equity in the hand is +\$64 (as i am an 82% favorite to win a \$200 pot.

i would assume for sng/tournament the ev would take into account payouts and be similar to an ICM calculation based on the hand you are eliminated from the tournament
Actually if you get it in with 82% equity with AA then your EV is +82\$ not +64\$.
Nop, AlCa was correct. In the example he is expected to win 164\$ (disregarding rake) and since he invested 100\$, EV line will go up by 64\$.
Yup, this is correct.
• Bronze
Joined: 17.10.2008
Originally posted by Jim4rdo
down up, up, down, up, down, up,up, up, up, down, up, up, down, up, down, up, up

hope that helps
Is there a way to change HEM so that my graph comes in this form?
• Basic
Joined: 21.02.2011
Hi, I have seen your graphs but unable to find out any idea so that I can explain you. I hope other members will help you out.

Thanks!