[NL2-NL10] Mss Nl10 99

    • qnb07
      qnb07
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      Full Tilt Poker $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - View hand 1200551
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      MP2: $23.37
      CO: $4.05
      BTN: $17.81
      SB: $6.12
      BB: $10.00
      Hero (UTG): $3.55
      UTG+1: $10.70
      UTG+2: $10.00
      MP1: $12.22

      Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is UTG with 9 :heart: 9 :diamond:
      Hero raises to $0.35, 6 folds, SB calls $0.30, BB calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.05) A :spade: 2 :club: 3 :club: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $0.55, SB folds, BB calls $0.55

      Turn: ($2.15) Q :club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($2.15) 8 :heart: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      should have c-bet more..
      give up after that right or can i 2nd barrel there?
      what about river? can/should i bet river to try to get TT,JJ to fold
  • 4 replies
    • d4WKamiKatze
      d4WKamiKatze
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      Actually we only raise TT+ from UTG, so you should fold preflop. The board is drawy and we have 2 opponents so I would play c/f on all streets and I don't think that a river bet is a good idea here.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Hi,

      I would cBet significantly bigger as if you have AK ;)

      What do you think his range is on the Turn/River (essentially the same)?
      generally bet-check-bet is a bad bluff line btw

      - Gerv
    • qnb07
      qnb07
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      on the turn he could have a weak Ace,JJ,TT,88,77,66,55,44 or a flush
      on the river he could have JJ,TT,88,77,66,55,44
      could probably add 99 in as well even though it's unlikely.
      i would assume even A4 or A5 would bet the river, at least small.

      is checking the river really the best option though.
      JJ,TT,88 beats me, 99 ties, and 4 pps that i have beat. is betting in the hope to fold out better hands, knowing no worse hand will call terrible?? i guess against unknown villains it is bad and i could maybe try it against people i know will fold on the river a good % of the time?

      if i had cbet the flop bigger i would have had roughly a pot-size bet left on the river so i could have shoved and probably won the pot. i'd get called by weirdly played Ax and Qx hands but could probably get JJ,TT,99 to fold a decent amount of the time. it only has to work 50% of time i think???
      why is bet-check-bet a bad bluff line?
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Sorry for the delay,


      Since your cBet is kinda small, I can see some small PPs in his range. But that doesn't make barreling or bet-check-bet line a good one because they simply fold on a 2nd barrel and you isolate yourself against a better range

      It is not about winning the pot, it is about maximizing your expected value!

      If you had King hi in this spot, people can look you up with any PP as you simply dont rep Flush and Ace high (Tho they cant handread, Fish even know this)

      - Gerv