[NL2-NL10] NL5 - post-flop leak?

    • ruvince
      ruvince
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2011 Posts: 31
      Hey guys, I think I located a leak. Looks like I don't fold to 3bet (esp. huge/all-in) often enough. I lost 3 stacks with this kinda play. What do you think about these hands?

      Except that my Fold to 3Bet is 79% (132 out of 167 hands).

      HAND #1

      Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      MP+1: $9.70
      LP: $5.00
      CO: $2.00
      BTN: $3.93
      SB: $5.00
      Hero (BB): $5.57
      UTG: $5.00
      UTG+1: $5.00
      MP: $9.63

      SB posts SB $0.02, Hero posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has K:club: A:spade:

      fold, fold, MP calls $0.05, MP+1 raises to $0.22, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, MP+1 calls $0.38

      Flop: ($1.27, 2 players) K:diamond: 3:heart: J:heart:
      Hero bets $0.80, MP+1 raises to $9.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $4.17 and is all-in


      Turn: ($11.21, 2 players) 5:spade:

      River: ($11.21, 2 players) 4:heart:

      MP+1 shows J:club: J:spade: (Three of a Kind, Jacks) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
      Hero shows K:club: A:spade: (One Pair, Kings) (PreFlop 43%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
      MP+1 wins $10.47


      HAND #2

      Full Tilt - $0.05 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BB: $4.87
      UTG: $2.48
      UTG+1: $2.05
      MP: $8.57
      Hero (MP+1): $7.83
      LP: $6.38
      CO: $5.59
      BTN: $2.00
      SB: $2.76

      SB posts SB $0.02, BB posts BB $0.05

      Pre Flop: ($0.07) Hero has Q:club: Q:spade:

      UTG raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.60, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.60, SB calls $0.58, BB calls $0.55, UTG raises to $2.48 and is all-in, Hero raises to $4.36, BTN calls $1.40 and is all-in, fold, fold


      Flop: ($8.16, 3 players) 6:heart: 8:spade: 9:spade:

      Turn: ($8.16, 3 players) 5:diamond:

      River: ($8.16, 3 players) 6:spade:

      Hero shows Q:club: Q:spade: (Two Pair, Queens and Sixes) (PreFlop 19%, Flop 17%, Turn 8%)
      BTN shows K:heart: A:club: (One Pair, Sixes) (PreFlop 24%, Flop 13%, Turn 10%)
      UTG shows K:diamond: K:club: (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes) (PreFlop 57%, Flop 71%, Turn 82%)
      UTG wins $7.62
  • 4 replies
    • shivas80
      shivas80
      Bronze
      Joined: 24.12.2008 Posts: 573
      Hand 1 i would fold to such a shove.. u have invested almost nothing compared to what u need to call, pot is small, and all u beat is QQ

      Too many times u see here: AK ( with hearts or without), AA, KK, JJ, and even 33, tho 33 maybe out of range based on preflop action.

      So basicly u loose to KK, JJ, AA, and someone with AK (any heart) is freerolling against you.

      Becoz of small pot (not commited yet), i would try to fold here.


      Hand 2 - shove and see what happens... can't see myself folding there (mostly becoz of stack sizes)
    • ruvince
      ruvince
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2011 Posts: 31
      Originally posted by shivas80(mostly becoz of stack sizes)
      Could you elaborate on that?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello ruvince,

      First of all, could you next time post them into different threads, the hands. It's a lot easier to evaluate them for us and as well we can concentrate on just one hand.

      Hand #1
      Only hand what we beat here is I guess KQ which he is taking such a line. And we have too much to Call there to make it profitable. We need like 40% equity but against this range, we don't get it:

      Equity Win Tie Loss Hand
      Player 1: 37,772% 35,720% 4,104% 60,175% AsKc
      Player 2: 62,228% 60,175% 4,104% 35,720% KK+, JJ, 33, AhKh, KQs, KQo

      Therefore I guess I am more often inclined to fold the hand unless I have some reads or stats on the opponent.

      Hand #2
      Not much to do against those shorties.

      Best regards.
    • ruvince
      ruvince
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2011 Posts: 31
      Thanks veriz, I will.