[NL20-NL50] SH NL25 KK fish call big 4bet

    • ragney
      Joined: 02.08.2010 Posts: 2,417
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2 (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K, K.
      Hero raises to $0.87, MP3 raises to $2.75, 4 folds, Hero raises to $8.50, MP3 calls $5.75.

      Flop: ($17.35) 5, A, J (2 players)
      Hero bets $19.41, MP3 calls $14.32(All-In).

      Turn: ($51.08) T (2 players)

      River: ($51.08) 8 (2 players)

      Final Pot: $51.08.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of kings(Kh Ks).
      MP3 shows three of a kind, jacks(Jh Jd).

      MP3 wins with three of a kind, jacks(Jh Jd).

      74/10 fish over 60 hands.

      Was my shove on flop stupid? Couldn't really back down from KK + backdoor nutflush.
      Otherside villian's range seems to have a high chance being AJ+
  • 1 reply
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello ragney,

      Even a fish I guess knows his hand strength, therefore I guess only hands what we win there are TT and QQ and even with them I expect him to fold there when we shove. Therefore I might even Check it and then act accordingly while we in 4bet pot. Like what kind of AF he has and so on, is he capable of shoving with worse there or how loose does he Call the 4bets? Obviously, we don't have a lot of hands on him and what makes the decision even harder, but I just don't see him Calling there with a lot worse even if he is a fish. I guess even if I had like Ax there, I wouldn't shove, just rather let him do the job.

      And more often he will have here in his range like Ax type of hands which he will continue.

      Best regards.