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[NL2-NL10] NL 25 T9s on raised pot

    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)       
      Position:
      Stack
      CO:
      $31.63
      Hero:
      $24.47
      BB:
      $23.20

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 9:diamond: , T:diamond:
      UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $0.25, 4 folds, CO calls $0.25, Hero calls $0.25, SB folds, BB raises to $1.50, UTG+1 folds, CO calls $1.25, Hero calls $1.25.

      Flop: ($4.85) 3:diamond: , J:club: , Q:club: (3 players)
      BB bets $2.75, CO folds, Hero raises to $6.00, BB raises to $21.70 (All-In), Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $32.55

      I shouldn´t even be on the pot, but pre-flop I got good odds. He would´t raise pre-flop with AT or A9, probably also not with TT or 99. So my cards should be alieve. If he raises with AJ+, then I´m not big behind and can probably float and take down the pot on good board. So I think that calling 1,25$ into 3,5$ (2,8:1) isn´t big mistake. Fliop is quite good and there I made big mistake. If I believe that he has AK, AJ I would make 8$ re-raise and call his shove. Best is just call and if I hit my straight on the turn I would probably stack him (unless he has set and draws out). 6$ raise is kind of fishy and I don´t even get good enough odds to call his push:)
      Still learning...
  • 6 replies
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2007 Posts: 4,736
      10 outs, minus 1 for reverse odds give 9 outs. (I counted 8 OESD + 2 BackdoorFlush)
      Over 2 cards : 36 % winrate : you needed 1.78 to 1 call this one.

      The pot is 32.55 $ (4.85 + 6 + 21.7) and you need to call 15.7 $ more. That's 2.07 to 1.

      Your odds were good enough to call, sorry.
    • Laurenz1988
      Laurenz1988
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.09.2007 Posts: 180
      Originally posted by SonicXT
      10 outs, minus 1 for reverse odds give 9 outs. (I counted 8 OESD + 2 BackdoorFlush)
      Over 2 cards : 36 % winrate : you needed 1.78 to 1 call this one.

      The pot is 32.55 $ (4.85 + 6 + 21.7) and you need to call 15.7 $ more. That's 2.07 to 1.

      Your odds were good enough to call, sorry.
      Still kinda 0EV situation, but it gives variance, so folding wouldnt be that bad.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Problem with that hand is that I´ve no idea where I´m at on the flop. I played it wrong and didn´t want to loose most of my stack by that one mistake.
      Don´t think that it is very considering his 1/2 bet on the flop and push. I would believe that he probably had set on that push, so there are also reversed implied odds what i should consider.
    • SonicXT
      SonicXT
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2007 Posts: 4,736
      You sacrifice winrate to lower variance ?
      Reverse implied odds aren't that great though.
      The backdoor flush draw could only pairs the board a Q en de OESD could only pair it with one card. Given that he's got a set and not just an overpair.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      So by making mistake on the flop I have to call 15,7$ more because of the odds, while knowing that I´m behind. I guess that I don´t make these kind of moves for a while.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      He leads into 2 players, so I'd prefer a call here.