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[NL2-NL10] [NL10] PF steal - cbet?

    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,957
      One guy posted+limped so it seemed like a nice spot to steal the pot.

      Limpers fold as planned, now an unknown cold calls me and I have no equity...

      Is this good PF v unknowns and do I just give up here?

      Is it still a cbet with like 2 overs+like backdoor nutfd?

      Poker Stars $0.05/$0.10 No Limit Hold'em - 5 players - View hand 1219644
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      BB: $5.40
      UTG: $9.62
      CO: $8.00
      Hero (BTN): $12.75
      SB: $7.30

      CO posts a big blind ($0.10)

      Pre Flop: ($0.25) Hero is BTN with 8 :diamond: Q :heart:
      UTG calls $0.10, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.40, 1 fold, BB calls $0.30, 2 folds

      Flop: ($1.05) 9 :club: 4 :club: 2 :heart: (2 players)
      BB checks

      Final Pot: $1.05
  • 6 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello LemOn36,

      now an unknown cold calls me and I have no equity...

      What equity don't you have? You still can hit a lot. Although I am not really a big fan of isolating with such a hand vs stations.

      Is this good PF v unknowns and do I just give up here?

      Rather just give it up if you have loose blinds.

      Is it still a cbet with like 2 overs+like backdoor nutfd?

      Only way to win the hand if you played it that aggressive preflop. And it's not nutfd, it's just standard backdoor flushdraw.

      Best regards.
    • phantommm92
      phantommm92
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.05.2010 Posts: 1,464
      1.good position to steal the pot, tho i would make it .5-.55 preflop, and on this flop i would take 1 stab and be done with it

      as played, i would bet about .6-hes ussually folding out most Ax, Kx,Qx, where x isnt 9 or 4, maybe even 33,55,66+sometimes you might even get called by worse like 87s;JTs;67s;56s

      and if the turn is a Q, i bet for value, then evaluate river
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,957
      Originally posted by veriz
      Hello LemOn36,

      now an unknown cold calls me and I have no equity...

      What equity don't you have? You still can hit a lot. Although I am not really a big fan of isolating with such a hand vs stations.

      Is this good PF v unknowns and do I just give up here?

      Rather just give it up if you have loose blinds.

      Is it still a cbet with like 2 overs+like backdoor nutfd?

      Only way to win the hand if you played it that aggressive preflop. And it's not nutfd, it's just standard backdoor flushdraw.

      Best regards.
      1) I mean equity postflop... besides the 2 Qs w/o a club there are no turns I really like
      2) I didn't know they were lose...they were unknown... Are you happy to steal here with regs in blinds? What size would you make it?
      3) Well I know its the only way to win it now, but is it +EV? to cbet? I want to win money not pots and this flop is terrible for me
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Well I know its the only way to win it now, but is it +EV? to cbet?

      Since you didn't tell anything about the opponent and yes, likely it's profitable to CBet there unless he is a station who doesn't give up at all.

      And by the way, keep going with the posts and of course good work! We still have a lot to fix in your play. Meanwhile good luck on tables!
    • LemOn36
      LemOn36
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 07.02.2009 Posts: 1,957
      Originally posted by veriz
      Well I know its the only way to win it now, but is it +EV? to cbet?

      Since you didn't tell anything about the opponent and yes, likely it's profitable to CBet there unless he is a station who doesn't give up at all.

      And by the way, keep going with the posts and of course good work! We still have a lot to fix in your play. Meanwhile good luck on tables!
      Yeah I know that...my basic game vs unknowns is a complete disaster, its so hard to play without any information for me :)

      Should my standard to be to cbet majority of low flops vs total unknowns that are unlikely to think on a high level, and then adjust if they don't fold to a couple of them?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Should my standard to be to cbet majority of low flops vs total unknowns that are unlikely to think on a high level, and then adjust if they don't fold to a couple of them?

      Yes, likely. Most of the time rather CBet then Check/Call or anything like that. Just post the hands and we can discuss about them in future. :)