[NL20-NL50] [SH] 4 way 3B pot TPTK

    • Dublimax
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      iPoker - €0.50 NL - Holdem - 5 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      CO: €54.57 VP:22/PR:17/F3B62/WTSD:26
      BTN: €52.34 VP:35/11/3B:3/WTSD:34
      Hero (SB): €153.49
      BB: €55.76
      UTG: €93.89 VP:19/PR:16/F3B:64/WTSD:26

      Hero posts SB €0.25, BB posts BB €0.50

      Pre Flop: (€0.75) Hero has K:spade: A:diamond:

      UTG raises to €1.75, CO calls €1.75, BTN raises to €7.75, Hero calls €7.50, fold, UTG calls €6.00, CO calls €6.00

      Flop: (€31.50, 4 players) 7:diamond: 8:diamond: A:spade:
      Hero bets €21.00, fold, CO calls €21.00, BTN calls €21.00

      Turn: (€94.50, 3 players) 7:club:
      Hero bets €47.25, CO calls €25.82, BTN calls €23.59

      River: (€169.73, 3 players) 8:club:


      The fish on the BU 3B. His range looks strong. That's why I am happy to flat call. However by doing so I give great odds for the other 2 to come along which I am not happy with (especially because I am deep with PFR).
      What should I do preflop?

      The flop is great. I think post flop I have to CBet. CO flat call means that he is very strong (77,88?). Should I get it in on Turn anyways?
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
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      likely one question is if BU can ever 3-bet with AQ or does his hand range also has QQ/JJ
      Call can be reasonable, but since you´re not closing the action and UTG can easily have there hand that he is going to 4-bet I think fold can also be reasonable
      Yeah, CO can have there 77/88, but also AQ/AJ that he thought he should call getting these odds or some kind of flushdraw, like TdJd
      Consider how big is the pot can´t really see how you can c/f turn, so I´m fine shoving for value
    • Dublimax
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      What about 4B preflop? That way I am not getting UTG and CO to come along.

      Tough one if UTG 5B though, maybe a fold then?

      If UTG and CO fold and BU 5B I call shove because he will probably do it with his entire 3B range that is tight (since he is fishy)
    • Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by Dublimax
      What about 4B preflop? That way I am not getting UTG and CO to come along.

      Tough one if UTG 5B though, maybe a fold then?

      If UTG and CO fold and BU 5B I call shove because he will probably do it with his entire 3B range that is tight (since he is fishy)
      if utg shoves then you can fold, since likely he is not getting 200bb deep all-in pf anything less than KK+
      Not really sure BU would shove AQ against your cold 4-be,t but he may still get all-in JJ/QQ/AK, so likely you have to call his shove, but to keep his 3-bet range wider and stack his AQ/AJ postflop if you both hit tp hand I like just calling.
    • Dublimax
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      ok so basically you like the way I played it.

      As played what if UTG flat calls the flop instead of CO?
      Considering that we are deep how would you play on later streets?

      Would you C/F Turn? or C/C Turn and C/F river? or B/F tunr and C/F river?
    • Kaitz20
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      Originally posted by Dublimax
      ok so basically you like the way I played it.

      As played what if UTG flat calls the flop instead of CO?
      Considering that we are deep how would you play on later streets?

      Would you C/F Turn? or C/C Turn and C/F river? or B/F tunr and C/F river?
      c/f turn is weak, since he can still have there also AQ/AK that he is likely betting, so I think I´d c/c turn and decide on the river if I want to c/c again
      Problem on that turn card that he can´t really have too many 77/88 combos, so if we take that he has there only 77, 88 and AK, we still have 31% equity

      board: 7d8dAs7c
      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      AdKs 31.36% 6 264
      77,88,AK 68.64% 170 264

      and if we add AQ, then we´re favorite

      board: 7d8dAs7c
      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      AdKs 57.32% 310 288
      77,88,AK,AQ 42.68% 194 288

      So even against AK calling down seems reasonable

      board: 7d8dAs7c8c
      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      AdKs 37.50% 0 6
      77,88,AK 62.50% 2 6