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pocket 9 magic

    • AllinAl
      AllinAl
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.12.2007 Posts: 12
      Has anybody else noticed that pocket 9s never or at least very rarely lose even to pocket rockets ect? Its driving me nuts they always hit that 3rd 9 or straight..... every time!!! arhhh! Just me or has anyone else noticed this?
  • 11 replies
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      yeah i know exactly how you feel.

      my rockets get cracked by 9s a phenomenal 19.806% of the time.
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
      Bronze
      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Originally posted by chenny8888
      yeah i know exactly how you feel.

      my rockets get cracked by 9s a phenomenal 19.806% of the time.
      LOL!!
    • zamwise
      zamwise
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 4,882
      Well... that's not a surprise. Use some propability calculator and check this:

      hands

      Ah As
      9d 9c

      Preflop propabilities:
      aces win 80,14%

      nines win 19,57%

      split 0,28%

      So what is that phenomenon?

      -- Z --
    • aciddrop
      aciddrop
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      Joined: 08.10.2006 Posts: 1,519
      I think it means that 19.806% of the time his AA gets beaten, 99 is the culprit. Which is high for specifically that pocket pair. Any pair will have the same probability against AA I think.
    • zamwise
      zamwise
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      Joined: 16.11.2007 Posts: 4,882
      If the suits are exactly different the strongest pocket pair against aces is 66.

      Aces win 79,58%
      66 win 20,13%
      split 0,29%

      Weakest ones are 22 (aces win 81,17%) and KK (aces win 81,08%).

      99 is stronger than KK-JJ and 44-22, but weaker than the rest (TT-55).

      Most likely you get a split pot against 22 (0,49%).

      It changes a bit when the suits match, but in those cases the aces are stronger.

      -- Z --
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
      Black
      Joined: 10.09.2007 Posts: 14,387
      Originally posted by chenny8888
      yeah i know exactly how you feel.

      my rockets get cracked by 9s a phenomenal 19.806% of the time.
      If you mean what I hope I nominate this already for 1 of the best posts in 2008
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      ;) yoghi.
    • AllinAl
      AllinAl
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      Joined: 28.12.2007 Posts: 12
      Fair enough guys, im familiar with some odds and usually have a rough idea but would have put the odds at less than 10% for 99 v aa thankyou for putting me right, can anyone tell me where i can get odds tables? God damn jusr got done in a torney AK spades me to Q 4 spades all in pre flop... he hit a 4 ;-( PS o well up 2 $200 from the 50 in 3 days im happy, i read the forum posts as i play i find it helps to keep me off the tilt, PS went all in with the 99s earlier in poxy $2 sit an go got raped by KK which believe it or not cheered me up ;-s
    • Pacer357
      Pacer357
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      Joined: 18.04.2007 Posts: 1,807
      Get equilator from the software area and play around a bit and you will get a good feel for the various odds.
    • AllinAl
      AllinAl
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      Joined: 28.12.2007 Posts: 12
      Thankyou mate i'll give it a go, went on tilt earlier went down to $100 went on $1 NL got lucky back up to $200 now what an idiot!!! Last hand on $1 \NL i have Aj diamonds guy raises $11 i call Other guy goes all in $97 dude calls i fold, would have hit flush on flop would have won $200 one guy has KK would have hit king high flush to my ace other guy has 3 5 off lol bigger tilt that me coz i took him AAQQQ to his QQQAK, hahaahahaha. Was so stupid earlier but i survived and now have 250 mansion points lol! ;-)
    • Pacer357
      Pacer357
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      Joined: 18.04.2007 Posts: 1,807
      Please read a bankroll management article and read up on the other NL articles as well or your poker career will be quite short. Good luck!