[NL20-NL50] SH NL25 AA shove flop non 3bet preflop?

    • ragney
      ragney
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.08.2010 Posts: 2,417
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($27.66)
      BB ($13.51)
      Hero ($25.35)
      UTG+1 ($12.50)
      CO ($19.69)
      BTN ($27.45)

      Dealt to Hero A:club: A:diamond:

      Hero raises to $0.75, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.75, fold, fold

      FLOP ($1.85) K:spade: 8:heart: T:heart:

      Hero bets $1.30, BTN raises to $3.25, Hero raises to $9.30, BTN raises to $26.70 (AI), Hero calls $15.30 (AI)

      TURN ($51.05) K:spade: 8:heart: T:heart: 4:diamond:

      RIVER ($51.05) K:spade: 8:heart: T:heart: 4:diamond: 5:diamond:

      Hero shows A:club: A:diamond:
      (Pre 83%, Flop 10.2%, Turn 4.5%)

      BTN shows K:diamond: K:club:
      (Pre 17%, Flop 89.8%, Turn 95.5%)

      BTN wins $49.05


      Villian decent TAG over 2000 hands:
      21/18/3.8
      3bet 7% / fold to cbet flop 38%
      Agg% flop turn river: 42/32/24

      How should we play this hand? Most of the time he should have a monsterdraw right? We go broke vs his whole range in a non-3bet preflop pot?
  • 2 replies
    • N0pr3s3n7
      N0pr3s3n7
      Coach
      Coach
      Joined: 14.05.2009 Posts: 1,274
      Since against monster draws we are flipping and against a made hand (2pair or better) we are really behind then I really don't like 4betting the flop since we gain no edge from the situation.I think the point should be to flat his raise and check/raise the turn : first we are greatly ahead his monster draws he is not folding(on blank turns),2nd we keep some bluffs he might have and against a made hand we are already behind from the flop.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by N0pr3s3n7
      Since against monster draws we are flipping and against a made hand (2pair or better) we are really behind then I really don't like 4betting the flop since we gain no edge from the situation.I think the point should be to flat his raise and check/raise the turn : first we are greatly ahead his monster draws he is not folding(on blank turns),2nd we keep some bluffs he might have and against a made hand we are already behind from the flop.
      +1
      I also don´t like 3-betting flop unless you know he is raising flop for value KQ/AK and would shove over our 3-bet