Everst NL5 the Downswing

    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Hey All,

      If you have not seen my NL2 graph you will notice it only goes up. This is the polar oposite. I have only played 2000 hands and I am down nearly 11 BIs. My Sessions only end up going for 200 hands before I lose a BI and I have to move back down to NL2. this is starting to become very irateting.

      Here is my graph a list of sessions and some hands.

      NL5 Graph
      [img][IMG]https://img638.imageshack.us/img638/5265/nl5downswing230311.th.png[/IMG][/img]

      Sessions
      [img][IMG]https://img688.imageshack.us/img688/8083/nl5downswingsessionsgra.th.png[/IMG][/img]

      Hands




      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353272

      MP3: $5.04 (100.8 bb)
      CO: $1.49 (29.8 bb)
      BTN: $1.80 (36 bb)
      SB: $3.81 (76.2 bb)
      BB: $5.96 (119.2 bb)
      UTG: $7.62 (152.4 bb)
      UTG+1: $4.62 (92.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $4.71 (94.2 bb)
      MP1: $8.05 (161 bb)
      Hero (MP2): $7 (140 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with Q:spade: Q:heart:
      4 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, MP3 folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN folds, SB raises to $0.85, BB folds, Hero raises to $3.20, CO calls $1.29 and is all-in, SB raises to $3.81 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.61

      Flop: ($9.16) 6:diamond: 4:club: Q:club: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
      Turn: ($9.16) K:club: (3 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($9.16) 2:club: (3 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $9.16 pot ($0.60 rake)
      Final Board: 6:diamond: 4:club: Q:club: K:club: 2:club:
      CO showed K:spade: Q:diamond: and lost (-$1.49 net)
      SB showed A:club: A:diamond: and won $8.56 ($4.75 net)
      Hero showed Q:spade: Q:heart: and lost (-$3.81 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353272][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      For some resason Holdem manger won show me stats when I view the hand bu I assume the reason I went broke PF is because these guys are not playing full stack so they are proberly bad.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353322

      Hero (BTN): $5.20 (104 bb)
      SB: $5.09 (101.8 bb)
      BB: $7.78 (155.6 bb)
      UTG: $1.50 (30 bb)
      UTG+1: $4.92 (98.4 bb)
      UTG+2: $2.54 (50.8 bb)
      MP1: $1.90 (38 bb)
      MP2: $3.89 (77.8 bb)
      MP3: $4.36 (87.2 bb)
      CO: $3.31 (66.2 bb)-VPIP 78.6-PFR 17.0-Hands 795

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with A:club: A:spade:
      6 folds, CO calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.58) 9:club: 4:heart: K:spade: (2 players)
      CO bets $0.58, Hero raises to $1.50, CO calls $0.92

      Turn: ($3.58) 5:diamond: (2 players)
      CO bets $1.56 and is all-in, Hero calls $1.56

      River: ($6.70) Q:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $6.70 pot ($0.44 rake)
      Final Board: 9:club: 4:heart: K:spade: 5:diamond: Q:spade:
      Hero showed A:club: A:spade: and lost (-$3.31 net)
      CO showed K:diamond: 5:spade: and won $6.26 ($2.95 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353322][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      This guy is one of the best fish on this site so easy to read. this hand was played in the first month on everest and I may not have had the reads i do now he was however still a fish then.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353362

      CO: $2.54 (50.8 bb)
      BTN: $6.27 (125.4 bb)
      Hero (SB): $4.95 (99 bb)
      BB: $1.90 (38 bb)
      MP1: $4.92 (98.4 bb)
      MP2: $1.67 (33.4 bb)
      MP3: $1.86 (37.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7:club: 7:heart:
      MP1 raises to $0.18, 3 folds, BTN calls $0.18, Hero calls $0.15, BB folds

      Flop: ($0.59) 2:spade: 4:diamond: 7:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.35, MP1 raises to $1.64, BTN folds, Hero raises to $4.77 and is all-in, MP1 calls $3.10 and is all-in

      Turn: ($10.07) Q:heart: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($10.07) J:diamond: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $10.07 pot ($0.66 rake)
      Final Board: 2:spade: 4:diamond: 7:diamond: Q:heart: J:diamond:
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.18 net)
      Hero showed 7:club: 7:heart: and won $0.00 (-$4.92 net)
      MP1 showed J:heart: J:club: and won $9.41 ($4.49 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353362][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      I keep geting 2 outed with 7s.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353442

      BTN: $1.57 (31.4 bb)
      SB: $5.36 (107.2 bb)
      BB: $12.14 (242.8 bb)
      UTG+1: $1.95 (39 bb)
      UTG+2: $8.33 (166.6 bb)
      Hero (MP1): $5.06 (101.2 bb)
      MP2: $3.81 (76.2 bb)
      MP3: $2.68 (53.6 bb)
      CO: $4.06 (81.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 9:club: 9:heart:
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.20, 2 folds, CO calls $0.20, BTN calls $0.20, 2 folds

      Flop: ($0.68) 2:heart: 7:heart: 4:spade: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.40, CO calls $0.40, BTN calls $0.40

      Turn: ($1.88) 7:diamond: (3 players)
      Hero bets $1.14, CO calls $1.14, BTN calls $0.97 and is all-in

      River: ($5.13) 5:spade: (3 players, 1 is all-in)
      Hero bets $3.32 and is all-in, CO calls $2.32 and is all-in

      Results: $9.77 pot ($0.64 rake)
      Final Board: 2:heart: 7:heart: 4:spade: 7:diamond: 5:spade:
      BTN showed A:club: K:spade: and lost (-$1.57 net)
      Hero showed 9:club: 9:heart: and lost (-$4.06 net)
      CO showed J:spade: J:club: and won $9.13 ($5.07 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353442][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      Probs should of played this hand difrent on Turn and River.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 10 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353462

      SB: $5.90 (118 bb)
      BB: $4.18 (83.6 bb)
      UTG: $1.98 (39.6 bb)
      UTG+1: $1.05 (21 bb)
      UTG+2: $4.59 (91.8 bb)
      MP1: $5.54 (110.8 bb)
      MP2: $2.94 (58.8 bb)
      Hero (MP3): $5.44 (108.8 bb)
      CO: $5.15 (103 bb)
      BTN: $4.05 (81 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:heart: A:club:
      3 folds, MP1 raises to $0.18, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $0.60, 2 folds, SB calls $0.57, BB folds, MP1 calls $0.42

      Flop: ($1.85) 8:diamond: T:spade: 5:spade: (3 players)
      SB bets $1.85, MP1 folds, Hero raises to $4.84, SB calls $2.99

      Turn: ($11.53) 7:club: (2 players)
      River: ($11.53) 8:spade: (2 players)

      Results: $11.53 pot ($0.76 rake)
      Final Board: 8:diamond: T:spade: 5:spade: 7:club: 8:spade:
      SB showed 5:club: 5:diamond: and won $10.77 ($5.33 net)
      MP1 mucked and lost (-$0.60 net)
      Hero showed A:heart: A:club: and lost (-$5.44 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353462][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      Love PPL thats set mine in 3bet Pots.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353482

      MP2: $1.67 (33.4 bb)
      MP3: $3.47 (69.4 bb)
      CO: $7.15 (143 bb)
      BTN: $4.78 (95.6 bb)
      Hero (SB): $4.95 (99 bb)
      BB: $5 (100 bb)
      UTG+2: $5.39 (107.8 bb)
      MP1: $3.77 (75.4 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 7:club: 7:heart:
      4 folds, CO calls $0.05, BTN folds, Hero completes, BB checks

      Flop: ($0.15) K:spade: 7:spade: 6:spade: (3 players)
      Hero bets $0.15, BB folds, CO raises to $0.60, Hero raises to $2.55, CO raises to $7.10 and is all-in, Hero calls $2.35 and is all-in

      Turn: ($9.95) 3:club: (2 players, 2 are all-in)
      River: ($9.95) 8:diamond: (2 players, 2 are all-in)

      Results: $9.95 pot ($0.66 rake)
      Final Board: K:spade: 7:spade: 6:spade: 3:club: 8:diamond:
      CO showed 4:spade: T:spade: and won $9.29 ($4.34 net)
      Hero showed 7:club: 7:heart: and lost (-$4.95 net)
      BB mucked and lost (-$0.05 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353482][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      Maybe should of raised PF but if hes limping 104s hes probs not folding to raise because Fish is gonna Fish.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353492

      UTG+1: $5.34 (106.8 bb)
      UTG+2: $5.24 (104.8 bb)
      MP1: $8.20 (164 bb)
      MP2: $8.19 (163.8 bb)
      MP3: $4.75 (95 bb)
      CO: $5 (100 bb)
      BTN: $1.40 (28 bb)
      SB: $1.28 (25.6 bb)
      Hero (BB): $5.23 (104.6 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J:diamond: 9:club:
      CO posts BB OOP, UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 calls $0.05, 3 folds, CO checks, BTN folds, SB completes, Hero checks

      Flop: ($0.20) 8:heart: J:heart: 9:heart: (4 players)
      SB bets $0.05, Hero raises to $0.35, UTG+2 folds, CO raises to $0.65, SB folds, Hero raises to $2.35, CO calls $1.70

      Turn: ($4.95) Q:heart: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      River: ($4.95) A:club: (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.83 and is all-in, CO calls $2.60 and is all-in

      Results: $10.15 pot ($0.66 rake)
      Final Board: 8:heart: J:heart: 9:heart: Q:heart: A:club:
      CO showed K:heart: 3:heart: and won $9.49 ($4.49 net)
      Hero showed J:diamond: 9:club: and won $0.00 (-$5 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353492][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      Maybe I should get away from this.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353512

      Hero (BB): $4.75 (95 bb)
      UTG+2: $7.20 (144 bb)
      MP1: $8.45 (169 bb)
      MP2: $4.92 (98.4 bb)
      MP3: $2.90 (58 bb)
      CO: $1.37 (27.4 bb)
      BTN: $2.14 (42.8 bb)
      SB: $2.76 (55.2 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BB with K:heart: K:diamond:
      MP3 posts BB OOP, UTG+2 raises to $0.10, 4 folds, BTN raises to $0.24, SB folds, Hero raises to $0.85, UTG+2 calls $0.75, BTN calls $0.61

      Flop: ($2.63) Q:spade: 4:club: J:club: (3 players)
      Hero bets $2, UTG+2 raises to $6.35, BTN folds, Hero calls $1.90 and is all-in

      Turn: ($10.43) 7:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($10.43) 4:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $10.43 pot ($0.68 rake)
      Final Board: Q:spade: 4:club: J:club: 7:heart: 4:spade:
      Hero showed K:heart: K:diamond: and lost (-$4.75 net)
      UTG+2 showed Q:heart: Q:club: and won $9.75 ($5 net)
      BTN mucked and lost (-$0.85 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353512][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      Players are so retarded on this site.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353522

      MP2: $1.45 (29 bb)
      Hero (MP3): $6.26 (125.2 bb)
      CO: $2.35 (47 bb)
      BTN: $1.49 (29.8 bb)
      SB: $5.31 (106.2 bb)
      BB: $3.16 (63.2 bb)
      UTG+2: $7.82 (156.4 bb)
      MP1: $1.94 (38.8 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:spade: A:club:
      UTG+2 raises to $1.12, 2 folds, Hero raises to $2.50, 4 folds, UTG+2 raises to $7.58, Hero calls $3.76 and is all-in

      Flop: ($12.60) 8:club: 6:diamond: Q:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      Turn: ($12.60) 4:spade: (2 players, 1 is all-in)
      River: ($12.60) 7:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $12.60 pot ($0.84 rake)
      Final Board: 8:club: 6:diamond: Q:spade: 4:spade: 7:heart:
      Hero showed A:spade: A:club: and lost (-$6.26 net)
      UTG+2 showed Q:heart: Q:diamond: and won $11.76 ($5.50 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353522][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      What can I say always get it in ahead.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353562

      BB: $5.33 (106.6 bb)
      UTG+2: $1.50 (30 bb)
      MP1: $0.95 (19 bb)
      MP2: $5.15 (103 bb)
      MP3: $4.92 (98.4 bb)
      CO: $2.89 (57.8 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $5.88 (117.6 bb)
      SB: $8.30 (166 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with T:spade: A:diamond:
      CO posts BB OOP, 2 folds, MP2 calls $0.05, MP3 folds, CO checks, Hero raises to $0.30, 2 folds, MP2 raises to $0.55, CO folds, Hero calls $0.25

      Flop: ($1.23) 8:spade: A:spade: 2:club: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $0.32, Hero raises to $0.90, MP2 calls $0.58

      Turn: ($3.03) Q:spade: (2 players)
      MP2 bets $3.70 and is all-in, Hero calls $3.70

      River: ($10.43) J:heart: (2 players, 1 is all-in)

      Results: $10.43 pot ($0.68 rake)
      Final Board: 8:spade: A:spade: 2:club: Q:spade: J:heart:
      MP2 showed 8:diamond: Q:heart: and won $9.75 ($4.60 net)
      Hero showed T:spade: A:diamond: and lost (-$5.15 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353562][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      I have been Isolateing this guy heaps so I thought he was gonna get tilted and make a bad play at me. I think I should of just 4bet this. Proberly should of mucked the turn.





      [converted_hand][hand_history]Everest, $0.03/$0.05 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #8353592

      Hero (MP2): $5 (100 bb)
      MP3: $1.32 (26.4 bb)
      CO: $8 (160 bb)
      BTN: $1.77 (35.4 bb)
      SB: $4.88 (97.6 bb)
      BB: $3.15 (63 bb)
      MP1: $8.45 (169 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with A:heart: A:spade:
      MP1 calls $0.05, Hero raises to $0.25, 5 folds, MP1 calls $0.20

      Flop: ($0.58) 3:club: 2:heart: 7:spade: (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.34, MP1 calls $0.34

      Turn: ($1.26) 4:diamond: (2 players)
      MP1 checks, Hero bets $0.96, MP1 raises to $4.14, Hero calls $3.18

      River: ($9.54) Q:heart: (2 players)
      MP1 bets $3.72 and is all-in, Hero calls $0.27 and is all-in

      Results: $10.08 pot ($0.66 rake)
      Final Board: 3:club: 2:heart: 7:spade: 4:diamond: Q:heart:
      Hero showed A:heart: A:spade: and lost (-$5 net)
      MP1 showed 5:diamond: A:club: and won $9.42 ($4.42 net)
      [/hand_history][replayer=8353592][/replayer][/converted_hand]

      This guy was playing 71 VPIP, these retards just call Gutshots all day.

      I realy belive I can beat this limit and that this could all come down to lol sample size. I think I just need to keep grinding the hands make a few BIs so that if I lose 1 I don't have to move down.

      Any advice anyone whos is going through simeler situation.

      First TLDR.
  • 5 replies
    • intercect
      intercect
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.10.2010 Posts: 1,122
      Well. I dont really understand why you whine about the QQ versus AA hand, all in preflop? It wasent a bad beat excactly. And the 99 hand, in a 3v pot? No cooler at all. I think you gotta studie the game alot more, and find leaks in your game.

      Beacuse right now your game is pretty bad. The J9 hand on 89JQ, four hearts is just horrible played. Why did you shove? Was it a value shove, or a bluff?

      But in some pots you are really unlucky, ill agree you on that.
    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Originally posted by intercect
      Well. I dont really understand why you whine about the QQ versus AA hand, all in preflop? It wasent a bad beat excactly. And the 99 hand, in a 3v pot? No cooler at all. I think you gotta studie the game alot more, and find leaks in your game.

      Beacuse right now your game is pretty bad. The J9 hand on 89JQ, four hearts is just horrible played. Why did you shove? Was it a value shove, or a bluff?

      But in some pots you are really unlucky, ill agree you on that.
      Im not saying all the hands are played well. I know some situations I played bad thats basicly why I posted this, because I need to do something about it.

      I think you are preety harsh saying my game is bad. I am a masive winner at NL2 and SNGs and I was a wining player playing NL4 on Party poker. yes I have leaks and my game is not perfect. allot of mistakes i made in most of these hand historys I proberly wouldent make now unless on tilt which I gotta stop.

      I do study a fair ammount, I spend 2 hrs a day reading and watching vids. and I do review sessions after woulds.
    • intercect
      intercect
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.10.2010 Posts: 1,122
      I can obv not say that you are a bad player, just by looking at some hands. But i think many of your plays in these hands are very doubtful.
    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      Originally posted by intercect
      I can obv not say that you are a bad player, just by looking at some hands. But i think many of your plays in these hands are very doubtful.
      That is Most likely correct.
    • BigAl123456
      BigAl123456
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.07.2010 Posts: 4,080
      I'm just fed up with Everest Poker there is usualy 0-1 NL5 table and only 1-4 usualy only 2 NL2 tables at times I play, between 12pm and 6pm Australian EST. I think I will leave Everest at the end of this month, but only if I have more than I started with weather that meens grinding NL2 instead of NL5.