[NL2-NL10] 2nl JJ , should I raise flop here?

    • wxmwoaili
      Joined: 06.08.2009 Posts: 120
      villain play 23/9/3.0

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (3 handed)

      Known players:
      BB (Hero):

      Preflop: Hero is BB with J, J.
      BU calls $0.02, SB raises to $0.08, Hero calls $0.06, BU calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.24) J, 5, K (3 players)
      SB bets $0.17, Hero calls $0.17, BU folds.

      Turn: ($0.58) A (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($0.58) 5 (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0.28, SB calls $0.28.

      Final Pot: $1.14.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows a full-house, jacks full of fives(Jc Js).
      SB shows two pairs, aces and kings(Kh Ac).

      Hero wins with a full-house, jacks full of fives(Jc Js).
  • 2 replies
    • belayd
      Joined: 17.03.2011 Posts: 1,021
      I'm not a hand judge, but to my mind, it's like this:

      Even if SB made a flush, you have 6 outs to make a boat with existing cards, 1 out to make quads, and a gazillion outs to make a backdoor boat with paired cards on the turn and river. You can 3bet as a semibluff.

      The disadvantage of 3betting on the flop, tho, is that, if SB has not flopped a flush (which he likely hasn't, as it happens so rarely), your 3bet will represent a flopped flush and SB will likely fold, depending on his stats. By doing that you miss out on the extra 28 cents on the river.

      You had position on SB, and he checked on the turn. Did you check behind because you thought he had made a flush? You still have nine outs to a boat plus 1 out to quads for 10 outs. A semibluff of about 1/2 pot size might have been appropriate.

      It really depends on your opponent. What are his stats?
    • veriz
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello wxmwoaili,

      Raise flop for value, I don't like calling and then seeing an ugly card which might easily kill our action. And on river I might even sometimes just over-shove there if I see the player being pretty loose and capable of calling down very light. But if not then definitely do it a bit bigger bet.

      Best regards.