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[NL20-NL50] [NL50 FR Rush] 67s flops FD, triple barrel?

    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $71.80
      MP3:
      $15.30
      CO (Hero):
      $88.15
      BU:
      $56.45
      SB:
      $109.15
      BB:
      $52.85
      UTG1:
      $66.00
      UTG2:
      $50.00
      MP1:
      $20.60


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 6, 7.
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.50, MP3 folds, Hero raises to $2.25, 3 folds, MP2 calls $1.75.

      Flop: ($5.25) 9, A, 4 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $3.75, MP2 calls $3.75.

      Turn: ($12.75) J (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $9.50, MP2 calls $9.50.

      River: ($31.75) 8 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero ???

      Villain is unknown but most likely fishy given pf play. When he calls flop I say most his range is weak Ax, FDs sometimes 9x, PPs and occasionally slow played sets and two pairs but I'd expect to be c/r most the times with these. After call turn I figured he had mostly small Ax and FD's.
  • 6 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      If you want to fish fold Ax you likely have to overbet shove river, but even then he might just c/c. So I´d likely just give up. You can bet 22$ hoping he would fold everything worse than Ax, but his hand range has so much Ax that I don´t think it would work that often
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      I bet $24 and got called :( I had his range totally wrong because he showed up with AKo here. Bad bet on my part. I still think the $24 gets small Ax to fold sometimes and his range is def wider than Ax. Do you think a shove gets more folds or is just burning money?
    • viewer88
      viewer88
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.04.2008 Posts: 5,545
      Do you have to bet the turn vs a random fish here?
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      You don't have to but you will probably need to hit your flush to win the pot.
    • viewer88
      viewer88
      Bronze
      Joined: 19.04.2008 Posts: 5,545
      Our equity is a lot lower when the turncard isn't a :heart: so we are infact the underdog when he calls.. it's not really a valuebet more of a semibluff. It always feels like such a "waste" when he calls :tongue:

      The J is kind of a blank so we don't have much extra FE here on the turn imo. This isn't the kind of board texture I would usualy double barrel on either..
      I prefer keeping the pot smaller vs a fish and hopefully be able to go broke when the flush hits on river.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by whipflip15
      I bet $24 and got called :( I had his range totally wrong because he showed up with AKo here. Bad bet on my part. I still think the $24 gets small Ax to fold sometimes and his range is def wider than Ax. Do you think a shove gets more folds or is just burning money?
      I think he would someitmes call you down with Ax. It depends a lot of his timing tell, if he is instantly c/c turn then I doubt he would even fold to your overbet shove