[NL20-NL50] TPTK with nut flush draw on flop

    • pokervin123
      pokervin123
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 42
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.1/$0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      MP2:
      $15.48
      MP3:
      $25.00
      CO:
      $25.00
      BU (Hero):
      $25.82
      SB:
      $23.20
      BB:
      $13.55
      UTG2:
      $10.22
      MP1:
      $19.68


      Preflop: Hero is BU with K, A.
      UTG2 calls $0.25, MP1 calls $0.25, 3 folds, Hero raises to $1.50, SB calls $1.40, 2 folds, MP1 calls $1.25.

      Flop: ($5) A, 8, J (3 players)
      SB bets $21.70(All-In), MP1 folds, Hero calls $21.70.

      Turn: ($48.4) 8 (2 players)


      River: ($48.4) J (2 players)


      Final Pot: $48.4.

      Results follow:

      Hero shows two pairs, aces and jacks(Kh As).
      SB shows a full-house, jacks full of aces(Ad Jc).

      SB wins with a full-house, jacks full of aces(Ad Jc).


      Villian is a 20/7 , agg freq of 3.0, flop agg 33%
  • 4 replies
    • StaticMoth
      StaticMoth
      Silver
      Joined: 22.05.2009 Posts: 2,642
      Pretty interested in what the judges are gonna say about this ...

      If we give him 88/JJ/AJ and AQ with the Q of hearts - it's a flip with us being 45% slight dog ...

      If we give him all AQ's without the heart (he might be overbet shoving for max protection) - then we are ahead 60%

      Very close spot - but I guess the standard recommendation will be to fold since you are getting terrible odds coz the pot is sooo small, you haven't invested almost anything into the pot and the best case scenario is that you're only a 60% favorite.

      More often than not u're gonna be behind and getting terrible pot odds.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I usually think it should be just pair+fd instead of two pair or better, so I would generally call there as strong hand as yours.
      If you player seems rather tight you can also fold, since usually it is for value and protection
    • pokervin123
      pokervin123
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 42
      What if villian is unknown? would it be a profitable call?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by pokervin123
      What if villian is unknown? would it be a profitable call?
      since it is so huge overbet you can also consider folding. But since it happens that rare you can also call, since in my experience it has been pair+draw rather than two pair+