I did it again !!!

    • promising
      promising
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      (this is my first post and I don't know if this is the right place to start this thread)

      I did it again, my balance is 0,00$ AGAIN!!!
      It all started maybe 10-12 days ago when I came 2nd at a party poker 500$ facebook freeroll and earned 65$. Then after only 2 days I was at 20$-25$ and in a day or 2 more I was down to only 89 cents. I split it on 2 tables and I was at 10$ in 2 days. That was encouraging and gave me some hope. Than another good session happened. I played 250$ freeroll (11k players) and 2$ 6max for 6 hours and came 3rd and 5th earning myself 46$+ and was back!. I lost both hands with bad beats -ak vs a5 and on the other I flopped two pairs 79 ,but the 3 came for the other guy..
      Wasn't 100% satisfied cause I had the feelling I could win even bigger at both tournaments, both I was back at 60$ from 89 cents!
      As you are assuming, something bad must have happened(otherwise I wouldn't be writting these). It seems like I have double personality: 1)a guy that can play a tournament for 5-6 hours fully concentrated and cash in nice; 2) the other guy nobrainer that gets very emotional after one or more bad beats and donks his bankroll

      I can blame it all on the blackjack button on party poker or on runner runner flush, but in the end I'm the only one to blame...
      Please guys, give me some advice what to do or some books or articles to read, I know I can play tournaments pretty well and am not willing to give up on this...
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    • Bendafatman
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      never, ever play blackjack and stick to bankroll management because it is the poker bible.

      also if you get 2 bad beats in a row, take a break. its just not your day!

      Ive lost count to how much bankrolls ive lost due to playing higher stakes. Just get too excited!

      PartyPoker recently gave me $10 (how nice of them) and I managed to get it up to $100. went back down to $10 because I didnt follow BRM (again)! I get bored too easily and the trill of playing higher stakes excites me lol
    • evertonroar
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      with $65 you should only be playing 1$ MTTs or SNGs or the smallest buy in CGs. you split your entire bankroll onto two tables? of course you wnt broke. you need to read the BRM articles or you will just keep going broke.

      the best player in the world would go broke without bank roll management.

      oh yeah - playing blackjack with your poker roll is just stupid
    • promising
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      guys,first of all, thank you for your comments!

      @bendafatman: I see our problems are a bit similar :) s do you turn off the computer and get up after a bad beat? what do you play?

      @evertonroar: I played the smallest cash possible and got few bad beats and went on a tilt and bust it...need to work on my self-control
      I split it when I had only 89cents and built it up to 10$ and again to 60$, but that's gone too...
    • andreimgs
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      Read about bankroll management, is one of the most important think for a poker player.

      As a beginner is easy to go on tilt. Some basic rules to follow:

      - If you loose a no. of buy-ins (let's say 3 at the beginning) stop playing. take a break, forget about poker. Whatever it works for you.

      - Don't play at higher stakes when you lose. You don't have enough money for those stakes, Even if you are Phil Ivey you will lose you roll.

      - Learn about poker when you lose, see your leaks, improve you game. Aa.. and yes, study the game when you win also

      Good Luck !
    • bohemiagrove
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      so you had so much fun for free....why you complain ffs
    • bohemiagrove
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      "- Don't play at higher stakes when you lose. You don't have enough money for those stakes, Even if you are Phil Ivey you will lose you roll."

      that's stupid!!!
      If you can't handle to lose don't play bigger limits.But then do give your self a shot to win big.
      One time I played my last $$$ in 100+$ super turbo sng on FTP and won it.
      It was mega fun,big adrenalin and won like 450 dolazzzz in 20 min.
      Poker is gamble if you are a math guy who does not like adrenalin is up to you.
      I will always like to risk cuz it is fun.

      Andy Beal took all the money for the Vegas poker elite in one point they were all broke.If you never go broke you never played poker
    • Berzerger
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      Originally posted by bohemiagrove
      "- Don't play at higher stakes when you lose. You don't have enough money for those stakes, Even if you are Phil Ivey you will lose you roll."

      that's stupid!!!
      If you can't handle to lose don't play bigger limits.But then do give your self a shot to win big.
      One time I played my last $$$ in 100+$ super turbo sng on FTP and won it.
      It was mega fun,big adrenalin and won like 450 dolazzzz in 20 min.
      Poker is gamble if you are a math guy who does not like adrenalin is up to you.
      I will always like to risk cuz it is fun.

      Andy Beal took all the money for the Vegas poker elite in one point they were all broke.If you never go broke you never played poker
      What kind of retarded advice is that? OP is obviously upset over losing even such a small amount as $65 because he didn't follow BRM, and you advise him not to follow BRM? There is such a thing as gambling for adrenaline, and there is another thing called playing to win. Just because you made a stupid move with your money and got lucky doesn't mean other people will, or even that you will again.
    • alejandrosh
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      Originally posted by bohemiagrove
      Andy Beal took all the money for the Vegas poker elite in one point they were all broke.If you never go broke you never played poker
      I've never played poker :) it's cool, I hate poker
    • AdmiralDJ
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      Originally posted by alejandrosh
      Originally posted by bohemiagrove
      Andy Beal took all the money for the Vegas poker elite in one point they were all broke.If you never go broke you never played poker
      I've never played poker :) it's cool, I hate poker
      I just have to say, most epic quote I've ever seen ;)
      Laugh my ass off :D
    • achschelo
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      Originally posted by bohemiagrove
      "- Don't play at higher stakes when you lose. You don't have enough money for those stakes, Even if you are Phil Ivey you will lose you roll."

      that's stupid!!!
      If you can't handle to lose don't play bigger limits.But then do give your self a shot to win big.
      One time I played my last $$$ in 100+$ super turbo sng on FTP and won it.
      It was mega fun,big adrenalin and won like 450 dolazzzz in 20 min.
      Poker is gamble if you are a math guy who does not like adrenalin is up to you.
      I will always like to risk cuz it is fun.

      Andy Beal took all the money for the Vegas poker elite in one point they were all broke.If you never go broke you never played poker
      Most retarded post/advice ever?
      They made fish salad out of Andy Beal. You must be the dressing.
    • gadget51
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      Must be in the running for it. Clueless.
    • Kodark
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      Blackjack is rigged.
    • SilverSag
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      I don't understand... what has this to do with blackjack!? You lost your poker winnings on blackjack and you blame poker for that!? Or am I missing something here?
    • Hahaownedlolz
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      Originally posted by evertonroar
      with $65 you should only be playing 1$ MTTs or SNGs or the smallest buy in CGs. you split your entire bankroll onto two tables? of course you wnt broke. you need to read the BRM articles or you will just keep going broke.

      the best player in the world would go broke without bank roll management.

      oh yeah - playing blackjack with your poker roll is just stupid

      65 BI brm for tournaments is actualy pretty damn terrible.. people get 200-300 bi downswings in the MT (180/360) sng's.. in tournaments it's even worse.. i'd say your pretty safe with 200-300 BI though.. but i wouldn't advise anything lower then 100 for tournaments..
    • Berzerger
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      Originally posted by SilverSag
      I don't understand... what has this to do with blackjack!? You lost your poker winnings on blackjack and you blame poker for that!? Or am I missing something here?
      Not sure how it all went down exactly, but from what I hear he got himself into apeshit tilt mode after suffering a bad beat and lost all his remaining money playing BJ. This is a very serious yet common mindset issue, people feel they're "due" to win something since they played well, and go for desperate measures to get those "deserved" winnings. Sometimes by playing looser, or by moving to higher limits, or even simply by playing roulette. And we all know how that ends.
    • evertonroar
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      Originally posted by promising
      guys,first of all, thank you for your comments!

      @bendafatman: I see our problems are a bit similar :) s do you turn off the computer and get up after a bad beat? what do you play?

      @evertonroar: I played the smallest cash possible and got few bad beats and went on a tilt and bust it...need to work on my self-control
      I split it when I had only 89cents and built it up to 10$ and again to 60$, but that's gone too...
      sorry misread the post. meaessage is the same though brm and avoid blackjack
    • SilverSag
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      Btw, if we are talking about BlackJack... I can easily show where casino makes money in BlackJack and why you should never play it. :f_cool: Maybe it will help OP as well...

      Answer a simple question:

      What happens when you and dealer have the same score?



      That's easy, right? It's a standoff, push, nobody loses... OR???

      Yes, it is correct when you both have 18, for example. But what happens when you and dealer both have 23?

      Think about it, and you will never want to play BlackJack again! :f_biggrin:


    • promising
      promising
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      Thanks too all, but only few of you answered how do you deal with TILT, I think it would help us all if we share our ''medicine'' for tilt..

      For example, I just lost with AA against QQ - the guy floped quad queens ?(
      KK vs TT, yesterday AK vs A5 and unfortunately many more...

      How to keep calm and not to react on hands like this?

      Thanks,
      promising
    • evertonroar
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      Originally posted by SilverSag
      Btw, if we are talking about BlackJack... I can easily show where casino makes money in BlackJack and why you should never play it. :f_cool: Maybe it will help OP as well...

      Answer a simple question:

      What happens when you and dealer have the same score?



      That's easy, right? It's a standoff, push, nobody loses... OR???

      Yes, it is correct when you both have 18, for example. But what happens when you and dealer both have 23?

      Think about it, and you will never want to play BlackJack again! :f_biggrin:


      more importantly, what happens when you have over 21 and the dealer has - well absolutely anything. he could keep going and deal himself every card in the pack hit 300 or whatever and still win. or he could not deal himself any more cards and win. thats why you cant win at blackjack
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