coaching NL bss QQ time to go broke ?

    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      hello ladies and gents.
      i proudly present tomorrows topic for the coaching:

      QQ, time to go broke?

      many many users are allways wondering what to do with QQ against a 4bet or against a 5bet shove with pocket queens.

      in order to find out when to call, when to shove, and when to fold! we will do tomorrows coaching.

      as usual feel free to post your own QQ hands in this thread.

      greetings.

      grummeler
  • 20 replies
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #1

      villian is very unknown
      vpip 25/ pfr 21 / 3bet 14.3% / hands 24

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      SB ($50)
      BB ($50)
      Hero (UTG) ($50)
      MP ($108.45)
      CO ($101.80)
      Button ($60.45)

      Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q:diamond: , Q:heart:
      Hero bets $1.75, 2 folds, Button raises $6, 2 folds, Hero raises $13.75, Button raises $54.45 (All-In), Hero calls $34.50 (All-In)

      Flop: ($100.75) A:spade: , 4:spade: , 10:spade: (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Turn: ($100.75) 9:spade: (2 players, 2 all-in)

      River: ($100.75) 9:heart: (2 players, 2 all-in)

      Total pot: $100.75
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #2

      here a spot where its not a preflop question but a postflop.

      villian: vpip49/ pfr 43/ 3bet 38,5 / af 2.0 / foldtocbet 0% / hands 108

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP ($25)
      Hero (CO) ($45.19)
      Button ($107.20)
      SB ($25.67)
      BB ($39.50)
      UTG ($31.27)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:heart: , Q:spade:
      2 folds, Hero bets $0.85, Button raises $2.90, 2 folds, Hero raises $7.15, Button calls $5.10

      Flop: ($16.35) 3:heart: , 9:spade: , 7:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero bets $13.25, Button calls $13.25

      Turn: ($42.85) 4:spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $23.94 (All-In), Button calls $23.94

      River: ($90.73) 8:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $90.73
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #3

      villian: vpip 19/ pfr 16 / 3bet 2.4 / 4bet 50% (2) / af 2.8 / contibet 86% / hands 113

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      MP ($57.30)
      CO ($191.90)
      Button ($50)
      Hero (SB) ($50)
      BB ($51.15)
      UTG ($54.70)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q:heart: , Q:spade:
      1 fold, MP bets $1.50, 1 fold, Button calls $1.50, Hero raises $6.75, 1 fold, MP raises $13.50, 1 fold, Hero raises $43 (All-In), MP calls $35

      Flop: ($102) 10:heart: , 4:diamond: , 8:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Turn: ($102) 3:diamond: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($102) 3:club: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $102
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #4
      villian coldcall: unknown, just 15 hands so far
      villian (3bet): vpip 24/pfr 19/ 3bet 7.1 / af 4.0 / contibet 71% / hands 228

      Pot-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Hero (Button) ($123.70)
      SB ($58.70)
      BB ($142.55)
      UTG ($20)
      MP ($77.70)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with Q:diamond: , Q:club:
      UTG (poster) checks, MP calls $0.50, Hero bets $2.75, SB calls $2.50, BB raises $10, 2 folds, Hero calls $7.75, SB calls $7.75

      Flop: ($32.50) 7:diamond: , 7:club: , 5:heart: (3 players)
      SB checks, BB bets $16, Hero calls $16, 1 fold

      Turn: ($64.50) 9:club: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      River: ($64.50) 8:spade: (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks

      Total pot: $64.50
    • grummeler
      grummeler
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      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 2,237
      #5

      villian: vpip19 / pfr 18 / 12.5 3bet / af inf. / contibet 100% / 96 hands

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($67)
      Hero (MP) ($103.05)
      CO ($67.55)
      Button ($20.75)
      SB ($17.75)
      BB ($26.20)

      Preflop: Hero is MP with Q:diamond: , Q:club:
      1 fold, Hero bets $1.75, CO raises $5.25, 3 folds, Hero calls $3.50

      Flop: ($11.25) 2:heart: , J:club: , 8:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $6, Hero calls $6

      Turn: ($23.25) 3:spade: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO bets $11, Hero calls $11

      River: ($45.25) 7:club: (2 players)
      Hero checks, CO checks

      Total pot: $45.25
    • gadget51
      gadget51
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      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

      Known players:
      UTG1:
      $6.34
      UTG2:
      $3.88
      MP1 (Hero):
      $8.17
      MP2:
      $4.07
      MP3:
      $4.51
      CO:
      $1.62
      BU:
      $2.82
      SB:
      $6.37
      BB:
      $4.04
      UTG:
      $3.94


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with Q, Q.
      2 folds, UTG2 calls $0.04, Hero raises to $0.20, MP2 calls $0.20, 5 folds, UTG2 calls $0.16.

      Flop: ($0.66) 5, 9, 9 (3 players)
      UTG2 checks, Hero bets $0.30, MP2 calls $0.30, UTG2 calls $0.30.

      Turn: ($1.56) 9 (1 players)
      UTG2 checks,
    • martisPS
      martisPS
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      Joined: 14.04.2009 Posts: 65
      what do you think :] ?


      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      SB:
      $2,01
      Hero:
      $2,07

      0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.98 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:heart: , Q:diamond:
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0,08, 2 folds, SB calls $0,07, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0,18) A:spade: , A:diamond: , 4:diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $0,08, SB calls $0,08.

      Turn: ($0,34) K:diamond: (2 players)
      SB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($0,34) J:diamond: (2 players)
      SB raises $1,85 (All-In), Hero calls $1,85.

      Final Pot: $4,04

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows (Qh Qd)
      SB shows a full-house, kings full of aces (Kh Kc)

      SB wins with a full-house, kings full of aces (Kh Kc)
    • Hate4Fun
      Hate4Fun
      Bronze
      Joined: 26.03.2011 Posts: 1,005
      Known players:    
      Hero:
      $1,17
      UTG2:
      $0,61
      MP3:
      $0,35
      BU:
      $0,5

      0,01/0,02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.99 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q:heart: , Q:club:
      UTG2 calls $0,02, 2 folds, MP3 calls $0,02, CO folds, BU raises to $0,04, SB folds, Hero raises to $0,18, UTG2 calls $0,16, MP3 folds, BU raises to $0,50 (All-In), Hero calls $0,32, UTG2 calls $0,32.

      Flop: ($1,53) A:spade: , 9:spade: , 8:diamond: (2 players)
      Hero raises $0,67 (All-In), UTG2 calls $0,11 (All-In), Hero gets uncalled bet back (All-In).

      Turn: ($1,75) 2:spade:
      River: ($1,75) 6:club: (3 players)


      Final Pot: $1,75
    • cozacu
      cozacu
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      Joined: 14.02.2010 Posts: 1,379
      $0/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (4 handed)
      villain 26/19 3bet 10.0 af 1.6 (90hands) but lately played very aggresive
      Hand seriously miss-played but might teach us a good lesson

      Known players:
      BU = ($8.44)
      BB = ($9.85)
      MP3 (Hero) = ($12.17)
      CO = ($19.69)

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q :diamond: , Q :spade: .
      Hero raises to $0.40, CO raises to $0.70, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30.

      Flop: ($1.5) 4 :club: , J :diamond: , 2 :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $1.10, CO raises to $2.20, Hero raises to $4.40, CO calls $2.20.

      Turn: ($10.3) T :spade: (2 players)
      Hero bets $4.20, CO raises to $8.40, Hero calls $2.87.

      River: ($25.77) J :heart: (2 players)


      Final Pot: $25.77.
    • MrBrilliant
      MrBrilliant
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.02.2009 Posts: 406
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $9.40
      BB (Hero):
      $11.10
      MP3:
      $15.10
      CO:
      $10.15
      BU:
      $6.22


      Preflop: Hero is BB with Q, Q.
      MP3 raises to $0.35, 3 folds, Hero raises to $0.91, MP3 calls $0.56.

      Flop: ($1.87) 8, T, K (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 checks.

      Turn: ($1.87) 4 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

      River: ($3.87) 6 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP3 bets $1.93, Hero calls $1.93.

      Final Pot: $7.73.

      Results follow:

      MP3 shows a pair of kings(Ad Ks).
      Hero shows a pair of queens(Qs Qc).

      MP3 wins with a pair of kings(Ad Ks).

      stats:vpip 17 pfr 14 wts 27 agfactor 4.2 hands 7.3k
    • Rammie
      Rammie
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      Joined: 12.02.2011 Posts: 51
      Oliprof Stats: VPIP = 26%. PFR = 10%. 3BET = 6.7%. Steal = 17%. AF = 1.3. CBet = 67%. Fold to CBet = 25%

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (8 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Hero (CO) ($2.79)
      Button ($9.19)
      SB ($9.90)
      BB ($20.81)
      UTG ($7.29)
      UTG+1 ($7.65)
      MP1 ($10)
      MP2 ($18.42)

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q, Q
      3 folds, MP2 calls $0.10, Hero bets $0.40, 3 folds, MP2 calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.95) 3, 9, 10 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $0.60, MP2 raises $1.20, Hero raises $1.79 (All-In), MP2 calls $1.19

      Turn: ($5.73) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($5.73) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

      Total pot: $5.73
    • denilsonnick
      denilsonnick
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.07.2010 Posts: 496
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
      SB ($30.15)
      BB ($30)
      UTG ($30)
      UTG+1 ($30.19)
      CO ($18.85)
      Hero ($70.24)

      Dealt to Hero Q:spade: Q:club:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.90, fold, Hero raises to $2.70, SB raises to $9.30, fold, fold, fold

      SB wins $6.60

      SB stats: 14/7 over 384 hands. 3b: 1.7%; 4b: 0% (4).
    • vengeance77
      vengeance77
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.04.2010 Posts: 9,734
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.05(BB) Replayer
      SB ($3.06)
      BB ($1.80)
      UTG ($4.06)
      UTG+1 ($4.27)
      UTG+2 ($8.26)
      MP1 ($5)
      Hero ($5)
      BTN ($5.66) 40/23 with 8.5% 3bet

      Dealt to Hero Q:club: Q:diamond:

      UTG calls $0.05, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.25, BTN raises to $0.65, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.40

      FLOP ($1.42) A:spade: Q:heart: 3:diamond:

      Hero bets $0.70, BTN calls $0.70

      TURN ($2.82) A:spade: Q:heart: 3:diamond: 9:spade:

      Hero bets $1.90, BTN calls $1.90

      RIVER ($6.62) A:spade: Q:heart: 3:diamond: 9:spade: 7:heart:

      Hero bets $1.75 (AI), BTN calls $1.75



      Call or 4bet?
    • m4rc3lj
      m4rc3lj
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.03.2011 Posts: 21
      Full Tilt - $0.25 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      BTN: $29.18
      SB: $9.67
      BB: $21.10
      UTG: $26.43
      UTG+1: $69.77
      MP: $25.00
      MP+1: $34.34
      Hero (LP): $10.00
      CO: $69.59

      SB posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Q:heart: Q:club:

      fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.50, Hero raises to $1.50, fold, fold, SB calls $1.40, fold, MP+1 calls $1.00

      Flop: ($4.75, 3 players) 4:club: 6:club: T:heart:
      SB checks, MP+1 checks, Hero bets $3.50, fold, MP+1 calls $3.50

      Turn: ($11.75, 2 players) 7:diamond:
      MP+1 checks, Hero bets $5.00 and is all-in, MP+1 calls $5.00


      River: ($21.75, 2 players) 4:diamond:

      Hero shows Q:heart: Q:club: (Two Pair, Queens and Fours) (PreFlop 83%, Flop 82%, Turn 0%)
      MP+1 shows 8:heart: 9:spade: (Straight, Ten High) (PreFlop 17%, Flop 18%, Turn 100%)
      MP+1 wins $20.67
    • denilsonnick
      denilsonnick
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.07.2010 Posts: 496
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
      SB ($57.84)
      BB ($65.25)
      UTG ($30.45)
      Hero ($39.34)
      BTN ($38.57)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: Q:club:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.90, fold, SB calls $0.75, fold

      FLOP ($2.10) 2:club: 8:heart: J:heart:

      SB checks, Hero bets $1.57, SB raises to $4.80 , Hero ??

      Villain: 33/17/3.6 over 664 hands. Fold to CBet: 44%; Check/Raise Flop: 19% (27); Flop AF: 4.6
    • denilsonnick
      denilsonnick
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.07.2010 Posts: 496
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.30(BB) Replayer
      SB ($42.11)
      BB ($80.50)
      UTG ($21.56)
      UTG+1 ($7.62)
      Hero ($30)
      BTN ($47.82)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: Q:spade:

      UTG calls $0.30, UTG+1 calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.50, BTN calls $1.50, fold, fold, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.20

      FLOP ($5.25) K:heart: 9:heart: J:heart:

      UTG+1 checks, Hero bets $3.93, BTN raises to $46.32 (AI), UTG+1 calls $6.12 (AI) , Hero ???

      BTN: 58/24/2.2 over 245 hands. Fold to CBet: 17%; Raise CBet: 30% (30);
      MP: 34/4/0.4 over 96 hands.
    • brunomi
      brunomi
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.03.2010 Posts: 113
      CO: Vpp/Pfr/Steel/4bt /hands 12/12/25/ 0 / 112
      Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.05 BB (9 handed) Hand History converter Courtesy of PokerZion.com

      Hero ($5.57)
      SB ($3.39)
      BB ($5.78)
      UTG ($6.09)
      UTG+1 ($5.07)
      MP1 ($1.50)
      MP2 ($1.92)
      MP3 ($2.49)
      CO ($5)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with Q:diamond: , Q:spade: .
      2 folds, MP1 calls $0.05, 2 folds, CO raises to $0.25, Hero raises to $0.65, SB calls $0.63, 1 fold, MP1 folds, CO raises to $2, Hero folds, SB calls $1.35.

      Flop: ($4.75) 5:club: , 7:club: , Q:club: (2 players)
      SB bets $1.39 (All-In), CO calls $1.39.

      Turn: ($7.53) 5:heart: (2 players, 1 all-in)

      River: ($7.53) J:spade: (2 players, 1 all-in)
      .

      Final Pot: $7.53
    • m4rc3lj
      m4rc3lj
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.03.2011 Posts: 21
      Full Tilt - $0.25 NL RUSH - Holdem - 9 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      LP: $4.50
      CO: $15.93
      BTN: $21.73
      Hero (SB): $10.00
      BB: $41.42
      UTG: $27.65
      UTG+1: $25.81
      MP: $8.80
      MP+1: $24.87

      Hero posts SB $0.10, BB posts BB $0.25

      Pre Flop: ($0.35) Hero has Q:club: Q:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.60, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1.75, fold, UTG+1 calls $1.15

      Flop: ($3.75, 2 players) 5:club: 9:heart: T:club:
      Hero bets $2.75, UTG+1 raises to $9.80, Hero calls $5.50 and is all-in


      Turn: ($20.25, 2 players) A:heart:

      River: ($20.25, 2 players) 6:diamond:

      UTG+1 shows K:club: A:club: (One Pair, Aces) (PreFlop 46%, Flop 51%, Turn 95%)
      Hero shows Q:club: Q:heart: (One Pair, Queens) (PreFlop 54%, Flop 49%, Turn 5%)
      UTG+1 wins $19.24
    • AriGold1980
      AriGold1980
      Bronze
      Joined: 22.05.2010 Posts: 812
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.10(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($12.30)
      BB ($9.97)
      UTG ($12.62)
      UTG+1 ($17.79)
      CO ($18.69)
      BTN ($7.60)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: Q:diamond:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.20, fold, fold, Hero raises to $1, fold, UTG+1 calls $0.80

      FLOP ($2.10) 2:heart: 8:heart: J:heart:

      Hero bets $1.57, UTG+1 calls $1.57

      TURN ($5.24) 2:heart: 8:heart: J:heart: K:spade:

      Hero ??

      Villain : 60/21/176 fold to 3bet : 13%
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