[NL2-NL10] A5 on a free play - 2 pairs on possible flush draw flop

    • abundance211
      abundance211
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      $.10-$.10 No Limit HE (Real)

      UTG: ($20)
      UTG+1: ($2.50) Post Blind ($.10)
      UTG+2: ($10.05)
      MP1: ($9.80)
      MP2: ($7) Post Blind ($.10)
      Hero: ($2) Post Blind ($.10)
      CO: ($4.10)
      Bu: ($12.15)
      SB: ($8.35) Post Blind ($.05)
      BB: ($5.70) Post Blind ($.10)

      Dealt to Hero: A :diamond: 5 :diamond:

      *** Pre-Flop *** :
      1 fold, 1check, 2 folds, 1 check, Hero checks. 2 folds, SB calls $0.05, BB checks

      *** Flop *** :J :diamond: 5 :club: A :club: (pot($0.50 5 players)
      SB bet ($.50), BB calls ($.50), Hero?

      What should I do? Go all in (Would I be denying correct pot odds for drawing hands by this move?). I don't think folding is an option and only calling seemed wrong as well. (And I am aware to the fact that when entering a table as MP3 I shouldn't have post the BB - just by mistake)
  • 7 replies
    • frzl
      frzl
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      go all in with a smile on your face :)
      that´s why you play sss: because you can go broke in situations like this without thinking about it :D
    • snowylee
      snowylee
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      Haha yeah, thats actually one of the good things about SSS :D
    • abundance211
      abundance211
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      Originally posted by frzl
      go all in with a smile on your face :)
      that´s why you play sss: because you can go broke in situations like this without thinking about it :D
      well this was exactly what I did :D and it turned out that he was holding J :club: 4 :club: . He got the flush on the river but played a dumb play all the way (I wouldn't even complete the SB with his hand as he did). I felt really OK with my decision, just wanted to hear other's opinions.

      Thank you guys and good luck
    • xylere
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      well, actually, his call wasn`t that dumb, he got the right odds to call your push) but, unfortunately, there is nothing you can do) push is the only possible play, of course)
    • abundance211
      abundance211
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      Originally posted by xylere
      well, actually, his call wasn`t that dumb, he got the right odds to call your push) but, unfortunately, there is nothing you can do) push is the only possible play, of course)
      Hello xylere,

      It seems that I am missing something fundamental here. Can you please explain how he got the "right odds to call my push"? I was sure that pushing will deny him the right odds. :(
    • helemaalnicks
      helemaalnicks
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      140 to call for a 290 pot. pot odds are 1:32

      chance to win with j4 against A5: 0.404

      So it is an easy call for him, since he only needs 24% to win for good pot odds here, especially since it's well possible that you had a worse hand then 2 pair, in which case his chance to win would've been even better.

      However, completing the sb and making a potsized bet on the flop are disputable.
    • xylere
      xylere
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      After you push the pot is 1.90 + 0.5 + 0.5 + 0.5 = 3.4$

      He has to call 1.4$ to win 3.4$ = 3.4 : 1.4 = 2.4 : 1 - pot odds

      His odds to win are 1.5 : 1 -> clear profitable call...