[NL2-NL10] NL2 - Preflop: TT 3bet from BU

    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Full Tilt - $0.02 NL - Holdem - 8 players
      Hand converted by PokerTracker 3

      CO: $0.89
      Hero (BTN): $2.12
      SB: $1.76
      BB: $1.02
      UTG: $1.40 (Unknown)
      UTG+1: $1.96
      MP: $1.72
      MP+1: $2.21 (45/18/inf/11 hands)

      SB posts SB $0.01, BB posts BB $0.02, UTG posts DB $0.02

      Pre Flop: ($0.05) Hero has T:club: T:heart:

      UTG raises to $0.04, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to $0.12, fold, Hero raises to $0.30, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.26, MP+1 raises to $2.21 and is all-in

      I don't have much information on my villains here. MP+1 is definitely looking to mix it up so far and I have no hands on UTG. (His stack size and posting in UTG is a pretty good read though.)

      I have two main questions here:
      1) Is there any other play on the button here? Should the 4-bet have been larger?
      2) Do I ever call to his shove? I'm putting him on a tight range here so even as wide as TT+,AKs,AKo is -EV for me.
  • 4 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      1) Is there any other play on the button here? Should the 4-bet have been larger?
      - I would generally prefer just calling and playing ip, since MP1 3-bet is generally very strong and once you 4-bet you can´t really fold to shove
      If you decide to 4-bet then I like your size
      2) Do I ever call to his shove?
      - yes once I 4-bet I have to call his shove.
      He is just too loose and would also likely shove with AQ/AK+ sometimes some medium pp-s. And eevn if you´re against TT+, AK, you´re not getting that bad odds to get all-in pf:

      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      TT 34.05% 137,694,996 11,483,952
      TT-AA, AK 65.95% 272,047,836 11,483,952

      If we add some wider range you´re basically flipping:

      Hand Equity Wins Ties
      TT 44.26% 280,227,552 12,432,396
      TT-AA, AK, AQ, 99 55.74% 354,590,964 12,432,396

      But I generally hate 4-betting TT that spot when I know player would shove always AK against my 4-bet. That´s why I´d prefer making up my mind if I 4-bet and go with my hand or call and play pot ip
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      It did end up going all-in pre-flop and he showed up with aces and I was like :s_cry: .

      If I flat call with TT am I still getting it on a dry (no high cards) board? Am I only playing for set value?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      If I flat call with TT am I still getting it on a dry (no high cards) board?

      Nah, rather play passively. And reevaluate his actions. Usually when they tend to fire near pot size both streets then you might even give it up on turn.

      Am I only playing for set value?

      Yes, likely rather for set value since we can't do the 4bet profitable unless we know the opponent better and we have a good reason for it.
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
      Bronze
      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Thanks for your help!