[NL2-NL10] i'm haunted

    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      they simply wont fold to me

      TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-58087418-1028
      played at "La Paz" for USD RM from 2008-01-12 00:00 until 2008-01-12 00:02



      Seat 1: Belligrent ($25.25 in chips)
      Seat 2: WiseGambler. ($17.80 in chips)
      Seat 3: whitefang56 ($5 in chips)
      Seat 4: cashcash99 ($21.45 in chips)
      Seat 5: xfishingman ($22.60 in chips)
      Seat 7: jumpingpengu ($33.25 in chips)
      Seat 8: rus1309 ($29.45 in chips)
      Seat 9: Aniquil ($25.95 in chips)
      Seat 10: nabs2 ($154.25 in chips)



      ANTES/BLINDS
      WiseGambler. posts blind ($0.15), whitefang56 posts blind ($0.25).

      PRE-FLOP
      cashcash99 calls $0.25, xfishingman folds, jumpingpengu folds, rus1309 folds, Aniquil folds, nabs2 calls $0.25, Belligrent folds, WiseGambler. calls $0.10, whitefang56 bets $2, cashcash99 calls $2, nabs2 folds, WiseGambler. calls $2.

      FLOP [board cards: 7H,8S,3S ]
      WiseGambler. checks, whitefang56 bets $2.75 and is all-in, cashcash99 calls $2.75, WiseGambler. folds.

      TURN [board cards: 7H,8S,3S,TC ]


      RIVER [board cards: 7H,8S,3S,TC,8D ]


      SHOWDOWN
      whitefang56 shows [ KD,KC ]
      cashcash99 shows [ 8H,KH ]
      cashcash99 wins $11.90.
  • 18 replies
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      if you don't believe me just look at this shitfaced dunk

      TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-58086187-1081
      played at "Irving" for USD RM from 2008-01-12 00:20 until 2008-01-12 00:21



      Seat 1: ClaraC ($2 in chips)
      Seat 2: morty16 ($32.15 in chips)
      Seat 3: Belligrent ($21 in chips)
      Seat 4: kingprawn71 ($26.75 in chips)
      Seat 5: polsen2 ($25 in chips)
      Seat 6: Aubreziya ($37.70 in chips)
      Seat 8: Abanigok ($6.40 in chips)
      Seat 9: eShaMeister ($33.40 in chips)
      Seat 10: whitefang56 ($10.20 in chips)



      ANTES/BLINDS
      Belligrent posts blind ($0.15), kingprawn71 posts blind ($0.25), polsen2 posts blind ($0.25).

      PRE-FLOP
      polsen2 checks, Aubreziya calls $0.25, Abanigok folds, eShaMeister folds, whitefang56 bets $3, ClaraC folds, morty16 folds, Belligrent folds, kingprawn71 calls $2.75, polsen2 folds, Aubreziya folds.

      FLOP [board cards: 6H,KD,4C ]
      kingprawn71 bets $3, whitefang56 bets $7.20 and is all-in, kingprawn71 calls $4.20.

      TURN [board cards: 6H,KD,4C,2S ]


      RIVER [board cards: 6H,KD,4C,2S,3C ]


      SHOWDOWN
      whitefang56 shows [ AH,AD ]
      kingprawn71 shows [ 2H,4H ]
      kingprawn71 wins $20.
    • tonypoop56
      tonypoop56
      Bronze
      Joined: 05.01.2008 Posts: 15
      Those were some pretty awful hands there. You can't really do anything about your opponents sucking out like that. I do wish you better luck in the future though. =D
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      i know but FFS why does the software keep helping these donkeys?

      TEXAS_HOLDEM, NO_LIMIT, P4-58169284-89
      played at "Stuttgart" for USD RM from 2008-01-12 06:37 until 2008-01-12 06:39



      Seat 1: IbluffIwln ($24.75 in chips)
      Seat 2: wavey1970 ($23.55 in chips)
      Seat 3: Gadiss ($7.75 in chips)
      Seat 4: whitefang56 ($7.85 in chips)
      Seat 5: lucktoome ($7.60 in chips)
      Seat 6: Tx2000 ($23.90 in chips)
      Seat 7: torsten1310 ($24.75 in chips)
      Seat 8: SirGreen ($24.50 in chips)
      Seat 9: mukone111 ($38.10 in chips)
      Seat 10: HannuKo ($68.45 in chips)



      ANTES/BLINDS
      torsten1310 posts blind ($0.15), SirGreen posts blind ($0.25).

      PRE-FLOP
      mukone111 calls $0.25, HannuKo calls $0.25, IbluffIwln folds, wavey1970 folds, Gadiss calls $0.25, whitefang56 bets $2.50, lucktoome folds, Tx2000 folds, torsten1310 folds, SirGreen folds, mukone111 calls $2.25, HannuKo calls $2.25, Gadiss folds.

      FLOP [board cards: TC,3D,2H ]
      mukone111 checks, HannuKo checks, whitefang56 checks.

      TURN [board cards: TC,3D,2H,AC ]
      mukone111 bets $2, HannuKo folds, whitefang56 bets $5.35 and is all-in, mukone111 calls $3.35.

      RIVER [board cards: TC,3D,2H,AC,5S ]


      SHOWDOWN
      whitefang56 shows [ KS,AH ]
      mukone111 shows [ 4C,AS ]
      mukone111 wins $17.95.
    • xylere
      xylere
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      just relax, nothing to do with a software. How many hands do you play per day? those suckouts are everyday routines... the best advice I can give - just deal with it.

      and please, use hand converter
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      somewhere betwine 500 and 1500

      i'm trying but somehow it seems that i can't get them to work proper
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      just make sure you play your hand correctly, everything esle doesn`t really matter. with experience you will get used to variance
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      asuming the board only save the hands i've paid i played 350 today in 3½ hour but most hands where folded so i'll say i've seen 50 - 75 showdowns
    • ramunaz
      ramunaz
      Bronze
      Joined: 16.09.2007 Posts: 18
      You shouldn't have been in the last few hands if you play according to sss. If suck outs start to happen I stick exactly to sss to leave the table when I'm up to 25-30 BB so it saves my bankroll. But sometimes its not very easy to leave the table with ppl throwing money at you with middle pair, so they suck out big ;)
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Originally posted by ramunaz
      If suck outs start to happen I stick exactly to sss to leave the table when.
      You should leave when you have more then 25BB regardless of your short term sucsesses (or suckouts), simply because you don`t know how to handle middle stack) But you have to wait untill BB comes to you, because you have already paid for the whole round. I guess this is the reason why he stayed (i hope so)))
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
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      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      Originally posted by ramunaz
      You shouldn't have been in the last few hands if you play according to sss. If suck outs start to happen I stick exactly to sss to leave the table when I'm up to 25-30 BB so it saves my bankroll. But sometimes its not very easy to leave the table with ppl throwing money at you with middle pair, so they suck out big ;)
      yeh well i'm not the one to fold AA or KK when i get them in the next hand :D
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
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      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      here i'm the BB and flop a straight against 2 pair, maybe i should take up knitting
      ohh he had 910os
      Poker Room skin
      Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.25/$0.50
      9 players
      Converter

      Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is BB with J 7
      UTG calls, 2 folds, MP2 calls, MP3 folds, CO calls, Button folds, SB calls, Hero checks.

      Flop: 9 8 T ($2.5, 5 players)
      SB checks, Hero bets $1, UTG folds, MP2 raises to $2, CO calls, SB folds, Hero raises all-in $4.5, MP2 calls, CO calls.

      Turn: 2 ($16, 2 players + 1 all-in - Main pot: $16)
      MP2 bets $15, CO folds.
      Uncalled bets: $15 returned to MP2.

      River: 9 ($16, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $16)


      Results:
      Final pot: $16

      i know it's variance, but does it has to happend on the river, every goddamn time? :(
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      beting 1$ into 2,5$ pot against 4 opponents on a drawy board is an awfull play)
    • Yoghi
      Yoghi
      Black
      Joined: 10.09.2007 Posts: 14,387
      Yes it's variance, but please stop playing pot limit :P You can't bet a good amount preflop. For the rest it was a nice hand :)

      EDIT: I'm blind, bet 2/3-3/4 pot next time and it's ok
    • whitefang43
      whitefang43
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      Joined: 15.12.2007 Posts: 184
      okay i'll take up knitting

      xylere yeah i know, but you know, no matter how high my bet would have been he wouldn't have folded i was trying to trap :D
    • ramunaz
      ramunaz
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      Joined: 16.09.2007 Posts: 18
      Missed the free play possibility, sorry.
      When I play at pokerstrategy affiliated site, I stick exactly to sss. I play also on 3 other sites which accounts I have paid for or collected cash at freerolls or received invitational bonus from. I experiment with ssg variants at those other sites.
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Originally posted by whitefang43
      xylere yeah i know, but you know, no matter how high my bet would have been he wouldn't have folded i was trying to trap :D
      And that is a huge mistake, you were traping yourself... I mean, obviously it wouldn`t change anything in this particular hand, but if the next time he will hold flush draw, you will give him right odds to call.

      And when you are against 4 players, the probability of FD is quite high. I would bet exactly the pot size here.
    • Watto77
      Watto77
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      Joined: 17.12.2007 Posts: 206
      Just on that Xylere. If I double up to around 40BB should I still stay and play normal SSS poker until the blinds come around or should I leave?
    • xylere
      xylere
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      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      Originally posted by Watto77
      Just on that Xylere. If I double up to around 40BB should I still stay and play normal SSS poker until the blinds come around or should I leave?
      Well, you can not play normal SSS, because you are middle stack now. This requires some adjustments, for instance, you can call a minraise with pocket pair for a set value, etc.

      That`s why you should play only monsters. At the beginning, I would say fold everything except AA, KK, because no matter how you play them (you can just push pre-flop) you will have +EV. With the experience you can start playing hands like AK, QQ, etc.

      You can leave, of course, but you will miss the opportunities that you`ve paid for.