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NL 25 overpair on re-raised pot

    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)      
      Position:
      Stack
      MP1:
      $41.99
      Hero:
      $24.50

      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:diamond: , Q:heart:
      UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.00, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $3.00, 4 folds, MP1 calls $2.00.

      Flop: ($6.35) J:heart: , 8:heart: , T:spade: (2 players)
      MP1 bets $4, Hero ?

      Another interesting hand. This time I don´t give you options how you could play forward.
  • 9 replies
    • swissmoumout
      swissmoumout
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      Joined: 23.02.2007 Posts: 3,385
      I'd raise for information. He (almost) certainly doesn't have AA-KK, he could have flopped a set with JJ/TT, top pair with AJ or the OESD with AQ. or a flushdraw? Or just a bluff. so raise to ~14$. Turn & river I don't know, there's a lot of possible scare cards
    • Schelles
      Schelles
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      Joined: 05.07.2007 Posts: 2,177
      I would raise to 14 too and fold to a re-raise
    • Faye6891
      Faye6891
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      Joined: 09.11.2007 Posts: 1,234
      Unfortunately on this hand I'd get stacked if he's hit a set.

      The board is too drawy so I definetly can't just call and a fold is too weak. I'd raise to $15.50, and if he pushed I'd have to call since I'm getting 7.2-to-1 on my call.

      My option to raise more than $14 is that since I'm gonna get stacked against a set anyway, I'm gonna try to extract the most from AJ, AQ and flushdraws.

      Well, anyway, by raising $14, I don't see how folding to a push can be good. You'll be getting 5.6-to-1 on your call, and you still could be ahead.
    • sw0ldo
      sw0ldo
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      Joined: 31.07.2007 Posts: 397
      im pretty sure the guy has AJ.

      i'd call fo' sho'.
    • thunderbird56
      thunderbird56
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      Joined: 02.12.2007 Posts: 2,186
      Originally posted by sw0ldo
      im pretty sure the guy has AJ.

      i'd call fo' sho'.
      How could you be that sure? Please explain more. ;)

      Good luck at the tables!
      -thunderbird56-
    • chenny8888
      chenny8888
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      Joined: 03.10.2007 Posts: 19,324
      Originally posted by Faye6891
      Unfortunately on this hand I'd get stacked if he's hit a set.

      The board is too drawy so I definetly can't just call and a fold is too weak. I'd raise to $15.50, and if he pushed I'd have to call since I'm getting 7.2-to-1 on my call.

      My option to raise more than $14 is that since I'm gonna get stacked against a set anyway, I'm gonna try to extract the most from AJ, AQ and flushdraws.

      Well, anyway, by raising $14, I don't see how folding to a push can be good. You'll be getting 5.6-to-1 on your call, and you still could be ahead.
      :)
    • aanty2000
      aanty2000
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      Joined: 22.10.2007 Posts: 484
      i would raise in this situation and if he pushes i will call ... we an overpair a gutshot and a backdoor flushdraw . i think we are often ahead in this situation .
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      I think there aren´t one way to play that hand correctly. I post it how I played it:

      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd or hands click here)      
      Position:
      Stack
      MP1:
      $41,99
      Hero:
      $24,50

      0,10/0,25 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with Q:diamond: , Q:heart:
      UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $1,00, MP2 folds, Hero raises to $3,00, 4 folds, MP1 calls $2,00.

      Flop: ($6,35) J:heart: , 8:heart: , T:spade: (2 players)
      MP1 bets $4, Hero calls $4,00.

      Turn: ($14,35) 2:spade: (2 players)
      MP1 bets $9, Hero folds.

      Final Pot: $23,35

      I took conservative line, because MP1 seemed solid player. He wouldn´t raise/call my hand with AJ, AT. So he probably had JJ or TT. I had probably 6 outs, so I called his flop bet and since he bet out quite big on the turn, I folded. Re-raising and calling a shove is also fine on that scary board and a lot depends on your opponent.
    • Gungunhana
      Gungunhana
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      Joined: 26.02.2007 Posts: 429
      Wp.
      If he is a solid player , he knows you reraised him pf so you are probably on AK, QQ+.he called your raise and showed strenght in his flop and turn bets. I ´d play the same as you did