[NL2-NL10] Nl10 SH QQ

    • dudiloiu
      dudiloiu
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.06.2010 Posts: 486
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Porneşte mâna

      $0.05/$0.1 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $10.25
      CO:
      $8.67
      BU:
      $10.71
      SB (Hero):
      $13.99
      BB:
      $4.00
      MP2:
      $15.76


      Preflop: Hero is SB with Q, Q.
      MP2 folds, MP3 raises to $0.30, CO folds, BU calls $0.30, Hero raises to $1.30, 2 folds, BU calls $1.00.

      Flop: ($3) 6, 3, 9 (2 players)
      Hero bets $2.10, BU raises to $9.41(All-In), Hero calls $7.31.

      Turn: ($21.82) J (2 players)


      River: ($21.82) 8 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $21.82.


      MP : 21/17/1.7 232 hands

      BU : 22/12/1.8 51 hands

      Can i get away from this spot?
  • 7 replies
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello dudiloiu,

      We need like 34% equity here and it really depends on the opponent. What kind of hands do you expect him to Call? Do you expect him to trap with overpairs? What's his WTS/W$SD? What's his fold to 3bet? What's your 3bet/squeeze stat, is he rather calling you light or not?

      There are actually a lot of factors which you could base on and then act accordingly. For example if you even expect him to go broke here with lets say TT, then we can even consider going broke because we are getting pretty decent equity:

      Board: 6:club: 3:diamond: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    59.02%  59.02%   0.00% { KK+, JJ-99, 66, AcKc, AcQc }
      UTG+1  40.98%  40.98%   0.00% { QdQs }

      But if you rather consider him having more tighter range:

      Board: 6:club: 3:diamond: 9:club:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      UTG    69.83%  69.83%   0.00% { KK+, JJ, 99, 66, AcKc, AcQc }
      UTG+1  30.17%  30.17%   0.00% { QdQs }

      Then you can see that it's pretty marginal, we ain't anymore getting that great odds.

      Therefore as you had the stats/reads and also knew the table dynamics, you should know get your answer yourself. And if not then maybe could try posting those stats I was talking about and maybe a bit yourself what's your 3bet/squeeze and how active you were those previous hands.

      Best regards.
    • EmmaDauwe
      EmmaDauwe
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.05.2010 Posts: 1,370
      It's a squesed pot. Isn't is easy broke than? Wouldn't he just call a monster? Low flop so ideal spot to bluffraise/semibluff?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by EmmaDauwe
      It's a squesed pot. Isn't is easy broke than? Wouldn't he just call a monster? Low flop so ideal spot to bluffraise/semibluff?
      Then tell me what hands would you raise there and turn your hand into bluff in 3bet pot? And do you really expect that the opponent is ever folding there a PP?
    • EmmaDauwe
      EmmaDauwe
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.05.2010 Posts: 1,370
      So you don't go broke, because of the suited cards and low cards?
      Wouldn't AJs go broke here? So you have to think in ranges better and your equity against them?
      I just thought, that he would also do it with worse draws.
      Is it a bad play?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by EmmaDauwe
      So you don't go broke, because of the suited cards and low cards?
      Wouldn't AJs go broke here? So you have to think in ranges better and your equity against them?
      I just thought, that he would also do it with worse draws.
      Is it a bad play?
      I did describe pretty perfectly what I would do here. I did as well even ask few questions there which I am waiting for the answer and depending on that we can act accordingly. As you can see one equity is making for us a correct Call and one ain't.
    • EmmaDauwe
      EmmaDauwe
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.05.2010 Posts: 1,370
      Speler 1: 43,755% 43,755% 0,000% 56,245% QsQd
      Speler 2: 56,245% 56,245% 0,000% 43,755% KK+, JJ-99, 66, 33, AKs, AcQc, AcJc, Ac5c, Ac4c, Tc8c, 8c7c, 54s
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by EmmaDauwe
      Speler 1: 43,755% 43,755% 0,000% 56,245% QsQd
      Speler 2: 56,245% 56,245% 0,000% 43,755% KK+, JJ-99, 66, 33, AKs, AcQc, AcJc, Ac5c, Ac4c, Tc8c, 8c7c, 54s
      You can easily take away a lot gappers and SCs there since I don't expect a thinking player to Call with them and even with A5s/A4s that often.