[NL20-NL50] [NL50 FR Rush] AKo bad bluff?

    • whipflip15
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      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $61.20
      CO:
      $54.10
      BU:
      $42.25
      SB (Hero):
      $51.75
      BB:
      $14.40
      UTG1:
      $59.75
      UTG2:
      $55.80
      MP1:
      $53.40
      MP2:
      $34.40


      Preflop: Hero is SB with A, K.
      2 folds, MP1 raises to $1.00, 4 folds, Hero calls $0.75, BB folds.

      Flop: ($2.5) 6, 4, 5 (2 players)
      Hero checks, MP1 bets $1.00, Hero raises to $4.00, MP1 calls $3.00.

      Turn: ($10.5) 3 (2 players)
      Hero bets $7.00, MP1 calls $7.00.

      River: ($24.5) 7 (2 players)
      Hero bets $16.00, MP1 calls $16.00.

      Final Pot: $56.5.

      Villain was unknown and I think only a small part of his range is made up of flushes. Is turn and river bets too spewy?
  • 8 replies
    • thazar
      thazar
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      bet $9 on turn and give up river imo.
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
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      We are chopping sooo often on river though.
    • thazar
      thazar
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      can consider c/c river but would more often than not c/f
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      being on the SB and only facing min-raise I think it is better to 3-bet AK
      postflop is fine, since you have there too much equity and likely on the river you´re splitting so you can consider betting to make him force the split
    • whipflip15
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      Originally posted by thazar
      can consider c/c river but would more often than not c/f
      How can c/c be better then b/f? Even c/r seems better than c/c...

      Edit: As for 3b there must have been some reason. i.e. Fish or squeeze happy person in BB or villain was playing like 4/4 over 50 hands or something. Not sure on the the reason. I'd have to look in HEM.
    • whipflip15
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      What range do you give him on river? Assuming he is unknown?
    • thazar
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      as you said it is likely to be a split. or you are behind. I dont think you have much fold equity anyway . so just for pot control. IE the more you inflate the pot the more rake you pay. that's why i would play c/c rather than b/c. but again I am probably wrong. :f_biggrin:
    • whipflip15
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      I'm not b/c'ing the river here. I am only beat by a flopped flush and an 8 but how much of his range is flushes and 8's? I think it is fairly small, do you agree? I cant see many 8's getting to the river and I'm not sure how often 88 gets to the river so I'm only worried about a flush.

      Are you calling my river bet for a chop given my line and a flush possible? Are you shoving river as a bluff given my line? In his spot I'm not sure what I'm doing with an 8 on the river.