[NL2-NL10] NL2 AQ flop straight, bet sizing question

    • member001
      member001
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.03.2010 Posts: 288
      Known players:
      Position:
      Stack
      BB:
      $1.78
      UTG2:
      $3.09
      MP2:
      $2
      Hero:
      $1.86

      0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.99 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is MP3 with A:heart: , Q:heart:
      UTG2 calls $0.02, MP1 folds, MP2 calls $0.02, Hero raises to $0.10, 3 folds, BB calls $0.08, UTG2 calls $0.08, MP2 calls $0.08.

      Flop: ($0.41) K:spade: , J:diamond: , T:spade: (4 players)
      BB checks, UTG2 bets $0.24, MP2 calls $0.24, Hero raises to $1.76 (All-In) ???


      BB is 89/18 super fish, UTG2 is 50/11 fish, MP2 is 15/6

      My question is whether I was right to overbet shove here, or whether I should have made a normal-sized raise in order to get called by worse.

      I was worried that a smaller raise could get called by the fishes and this would give MP2 decent odds to stay in the hand as well. I don't really want a multiway pot where I can make an expensive mistake if the board pairs or another arrives, so I prefer to end it now.

      Is this ok, or am I missing out on some EV by betting too heavily here and potentially chasing everyone away when I have the best hand?

      Thanks
  • 4 replies
    • Wurble
      Wurble
      Silver
      Joined: 04.04.2009 Posts: 456
      Missing tonnes of ev, remember that you want weaker hands to call but you also want them to pay for any draws while you are ahead. I would pot it for protection, pot pretty much any turn and shove the river.
    • member001
      member001
      Bronze
      Joined: 18.03.2010 Posts: 288
      Thanks Wurble. Sorry to ask a basic question but can I just check I understand properly what "betting pot" actually means when there is a previous raiser? If I call $0.24 the pot will be $1.13 (i.e. 3 x $0.24 + $0.41), so to pot it here I would need to raise to $1.37 (i.e. call the $0.24 and raise an extra $1.13), is that correct?

      $1.37 is almost 80% of my remaining stack here anyway - does that make it less of a mistake just to shove?
    • Wurble
      Wurble
      Silver
      Joined: 04.04.2009 Posts: 456
      Originally posted by member001
      Thanks Wurble. Sorry to ask a basic question but can I just check I understand properly what "betting pot" actually means when there is a previous raiser? If I call $0.24 the pot will be $1.13 (i.e. 3 x $0.24 + $0.41), so to pot it here I would need to raise to $1.37 (i.e. call the $0.24 and raise an extra $1.13), is that correct?

      $1.37 is almost 80% of my remaining stack here anyway - does that make it less of a mistake just to shove?
      yup, you're right of course.. Stupid me Reading on my phone missed stack sizes etc lol yeah shove is fine!
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello member001,

      Preflop: I'd even raise here $0,12 for 2 limpers.
      Postflop: And yes, rather shove because basically our pot size raise is almost the all-in.

      Best regards.