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[NL20-NL50] NL50, set on wet flop vs 3 players

    • rraiden80
      rraiden80
      Bronze
      Joined: 03.01.2009 Posts: 1,549
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (8 handed)

      Known players:
      SB:
      $50.25
      BB:
      $20.00
      UTG2:
      $50.00
      MP1:
      $107.35
      MP2 (Hero):
      $88.30
      MP3:
      $50.00
      CO:
      $24.45
      BU:
      $70.75


      Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J, J.
      UTG2 raises to $1.50, MP1 folds, Hero calls $1.50, MP3 folds, CO calls $1.50, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($6.75) K, J, 8 (4 players)
      UTG2 bets $4.50, Hero raises to $17.75, CO folds, BU raises to $69.25(All-In), UTG2 folds, Hero calls $51.50.

      Turn: ($149.75) T (2 players)


      River: ($149.75) 9 (2 players)


      Final Pot: $149.75.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows three of a kind, jacks(J J).
      BU shows a flush, ace high(6 A).

      BU wins with a flush, ace high(6 A).

      Morati69 plays 32/12, ag flop 1,8, WTS 35%, 155 hands
      is it ok to call that all-in on flop?
  • 6 replies
    • thazar
      thazar
      Bronze
      Joined: 14.09.2009 Posts: 6,561
      Easy call. although you are behind a made Flush, he can play that way with AhK and AhA or even AA. And against a flush you have equity to catch your boat on turn or river. the only hand you are behind off is KK. So again, well played
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
      Bronze
      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975

      Board: K:heart: J:heart: 8:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    65.55%  65.55%   0.00% { Ah5h }
      MP3    34.45%  34.45%   0.00% { JdJc }



      Against the nuts we make a very slight >O EV call and I don't think he is going to have KK there because I expect him to always 3bet them preflop because 3 players already entered the pot before his turn.

      If we combine this with the fact that he can sometimes have A :heart: X or 88 I think you played the hand the best way possible.
    • fusionpk
      fusionpk
      Bronze
      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 1,692
      I just EQ'd and was shocked that actually I think we are ahead of his range here, I thought we would be behind but priced in but actually when I EQ this range (ok granted he has a few more flushes and maybe a couple less non-flush hands but tht doesn't chance much since little combos anyway) so as played wp OP

      here:
      Player 1: 56.420 JsJd
      Player 2: 43.580 88, AhKh, AhQh, AhJh, AhTh, Ah9h, Ah8h, Ah7h, Ah6h, Ah5h, Ah4h, Ah3h, Ah2h, KJs, QhTh, Th9h, AhQs, AhQd, AhQc, AhJs, AhJd, AhJc, KJo

      I think this is a realistic range, and I think it can be even wider (more suited connector hands) so wp. In the range I included all suited Ax hearts (nut flushes) because I think he has pretty much all of them, a few high suited connectors (flushes), bottom set 88, top 2, and some big combo draws AhQx gutshot/fd to nuts + AhJx (1 combo) pair+nfd. I think this is reasonable, it might be slightly weighted wrong but I think it still yields a realistic equity.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      He would bet shove his A high flushdraws so easy raise/call postflop.
      Also if he opens that loose UTG I think you should mostly 3-bet with your jacks
    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      Joined: 15.06.2010 Posts: 1,975
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      He would bet shove his A high flushdraws so easy raise/call postflop.
      Also if he opens that loose UTG I think you should mostly 3-bet with your jacks
      I think you misread the flop sir, it was a cold 3bet shove by the BU vs UTG cbet and our raise.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by DeMarcohsp
      Originally posted by Kaitz20
      He would bet shove his A high flushdraws so easy raise/call postflop.
      Also if he opens that loose UTG I think you should mostly 3-bet with your jacks
      I think you misread the flop sir, it was a cold 3bet shove by the BU vs UTG cbet and our raise.
      yeah, my bad.
      But at the same time I think we still can´t fold our set, since BU might also shove smt like pair+A high flushdraw, KJ, 88