[NL20-NL50] [NL50 FR Rush] KJ nut straight, river play.

    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
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      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $73.80
      CO (Hero):
      $84.75
      BU:
      $28.40
      SB:
      $19.60
      BB:
      $66.60
      UTG1:
      $39.85
      UTG2:
      $102.70
      MP1:
      $80.20
      MP2:
      $51.50


      Preflop: Hero is CO with J, K.
      4 folds, MP3 raises to $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, BU calls $1.50, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($5.25) 7, Q, T (3 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $3.50, BU folds, MP3 raises to $9.00, Hero calls $5.50.

      Turn: ($23.25) 9 (2 players)
      MP3 checks, Hero bets $17.00, MP3 calls $17.00.

      River: ($57.25) T (2 players)
      MP3 bets $46.30(All-In), Hero folds, MP3 gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $57.25.

      Villain is 12/9 over 600 w cbet% 47. When he cr's flop i think almost all his range is 77, QQ, TT and QT so I ovb don't want to 3b flop. Seems to me like an obv fold on river.

      I was also planning to check behind if checked to. This sound ok?
  • 5 replies
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Are you sure he isn´t doing that with KK/AA?
      I would likely not fold my nut straight, since I don´t expect player to scare 9 if he has there set, so imo he can sometimes also have there worse hands, but since you don´t get very good odds and if you don´t expect him to shove KK/AA then fold should be fine

      I was also planning to check behind if checked to. This sound ok?
      - I´d still bet at least 20$, since he can have there worse hands than just boats if he takes that line
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
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      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      I rarely expect to see AA/KK c/r the flop. This is only from my experience though. Just not a line I ever see. If it is the rare time he has AA/KK why would he shove river?
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by whipflip15
      I rarely expect to see AA/KK c/r the flop. This is only from my experience though. Just not a line I ever see. If it is the rare time he has AA/KK why would he shove river?
      likely not. One hand that can make sense is 89s that he c/r flop then turn his pair+oesd and decides to bluffshove river, but I agree you see boats most of the times so fold is fine
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
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      Couple of questions:

      How do you play a set in his spot?

      I don't often see a PFR'er c/r flops. I feel this is mostly monsters. Do you agree?

      I don't think we have enough fold equity to b/3b the flop. You agree?

      If turn bricks and he bet something bigger, 1/2 or 3/4 pot what should I do? I feel fold.

      Lol sorry for all the questions.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      Originally posted by whipflip15
      Couple of questions:

      How do you play a set in his spot?

      I don't often see a PFR'er c/r flops. I feel this is mostly monsters. Do you agree?

      I don't think we have enough fold equity to b/3b the flop. You agree?

      If turn bricks and he bet something bigger, 1/2 or 3/4 pot what should I do? I feel fold.

      Lol sorry for all the questions.
      How do you play a set in his spot?
      - bet, bet, bet. if player likes to float then bet flop, c/r turn

      I don't often see a PFR'er c/r flops. I feel this is mostly monsters. Do you agree?
      - it is often sets, but some players would also c/r flop with overpairs or strong draws

      I don't think we have enough fold equity to b/3b the flop. You agree?
      - yes, he doesn´t have there draws and he would not c/r fold his overpairs

      If turn bricks and he bet something bigger, 1/2 or 3/4 pot what should I do? I feel fold.
      - being ip and deep I would call 3/4 potsize bet since I don´t see him c/f river