Very small 4bets

    • Gabinr1
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      As size = not far from minraising.

      I've seen a lot of these lately. What do they mean? And how do you play against them?


      I usually 4bet 2,5* the 3bet size, but these 4bets that I've seen lately are outrageously small.
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    • fuzzyfish
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      They don't want to put more than 25% of their stack in the middle, that way they can still fold their 96s when you shove.
    • mattisks
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      4 bets sucks. Try 4bet against me and I will kick ur butt. Seriously :D But with my latest play you won't get 4bet unless someone else is involved :)
    • i5bet72o
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      2.5x the 3bet size is way too big imo. like 2.2x is standard for me.
    • dannywratten
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      Originally posted by i5bet72o
      2.5x the 3bet size is way too big imo. like 2.2x is standard for me.
      Would you keep your 4bets 2.2x 3bet size if stacks are deep? Or are your 4bets generally bigger deep to get stacks in easier?
    • mattisks
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      4bet? Just ship it and give me your money! :D
    • chenny8888
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      Originally posted by dannywratten
      Originally posted by i5bet72o
      2.5x the 3bet size is way too big imo. like 2.2x is standard for me.
      Would you keep your 4bets 2.2x 3bet size if stacks are deep? Or are your 4bets generally bigger deep to get stacks in easier?
      depends on stack depth and position. if you're oop make it more, if you're deeper make it more. generally i do 2.2x ip and 2.4x OOP vs any 3bet size with 100bb stacks though
    • Hahaownedlolz
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      Originally posted by dannywratten
      Originally posted by i5bet72o
      2.5x the 3bet size is way too big imo. like 2.2x is standard for me.
      Would you keep your 4bets 2.2x 3bet size if stacks are deep? Or are your 4bets generally bigger deep to get stacks in easier?

      He 5bets 72o so i wouldn't value his advice that much :coolface:
    • z1pz0r
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      Best way to adapt against regs who 4b in position light, 2x size of 3b and contibet 1/4 potsize on any flop if they get called? Except light shoving, perhaps I should balance my calling range with AA, KK, all in bluffs on low flops?