how bad can a guy run?

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    • Alficor1
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      Originally posted by clawindsouza
      im 18 BIs below ev this month at nl25....has anyone even been this unlucky?
      I lost 22 dollars yesterday if it makes you feel better
    • EmanuelC16
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      Not looking at EV is easier imo...
    • tcs35
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      i ran worse a month or so ago. then i got a grip and won
    • Yoshimitsu77
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      im $90 under EV in STT's, i cry myself to sleep every night after i look at it
    • clawindsouza
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      Originally posted by Alficor1
      Originally posted by clawindsouza
      im 18 BIs below ev this month at nl25....has anyone even been this unlucky?
      I lost 22 dollars yesterday if it makes you feel better
      but how much did u win:D
    • Alficor1
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      Originally posted by clawindsouza
      Originally posted by Alficor1
      Originally posted by clawindsouza
      im 18 BIs below ev this month at nl25....has anyone even been this unlucky?
      I lost 22 dollars yesterday if it makes you feel better
      but how much did u win:D
      Bout free tiddy
    • Classified181
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      yeah i have champ, ran 23 BI below even on Stars at 10/25c in my 2nd month after being up 31 BI in 1st month, its the software system mate, nothing to do with the BS they try and call variance. We all hear of these downswings everyday from numerous players, whether it be a week, month, 6 months, even a year. Has anybody ever actually had a RNG online heater, like a real heater, you know good side of set over sets, fh over fh, flush over flush over a good sample of hands or time or do only a ridiculous amount of downswings occur? If so how does ths add up, guess what, it DOES'NT!
    • Saruniks
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      probably 6km/h is worst speed at what guy can run.
    • bennisboy
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      I had the opposite earlier.

      Sat down at two tables. Got first hand AA on one KK on the other, doubled up in both :f_cool:

      Then throughout the next 10 mins got far too many monsters to be fair, flopped a full with 89s, picked up QQ-AA like nobody's business, AK a good few times. I think my VPIP was around 50% on both tables. Everyone else must have thought I was a crazy maniac, 3-betting almost every hand, which explains why I got far too many callers! Usually my VPIP is around 20, but i just couldn't help it :D
    • Classified181
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      Originally posted by bennisboy
      I had the opposite earlier.

      Sat down at two tables. Got first hand AA on one KK on the other, doubled up in both :f_cool:

      Then throughout the next 10 mins got far too many monsters to be fair, flopped a full with 89s, picked up QQ-AA like nobody's business, AK a good few times. I think my VPIP was around 50% on both tables. Everyone else must have thought I was a crazy maniac, 3-betting almost every hand, which explains why I got far too many callers! Usually my VPIP is around 20, but i just couldn't help it :D
      Lets see a graph and the next 5k of hands to go with it if it did even happen...
    • bennisboy
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      Originally posted by Classified181
      Originally posted by bennisboy
      I had the opposite earlier.

      Sat down at two tables. Got first hand AA on one KK on the other, doubled up in both :f_cool:

      Then throughout the next 10 mins got far too many monsters to be fair, flopped a full with 89s, picked up QQ-AA like nobody's business, AK a good few times. I think my VPIP was around 50% on both tables. Everyone else must have thought I was a crazy maniac, 3-betting almost every hand, which explains why I got far too many callers! Usually my VPIP is around 20, but i just couldn't help it :D
      Lets see a graph and the next 5k of hands to go with it if it did even happen...
      Cos it's gonna go like that for the next 5k hands... muppet
    • belayd
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      I'm about 20 buyins below EV at 4NL on Cake. It's one reason I've switched to LHE--less variance, plus I can play 25LHE as opposed to being stuck at 4NL.

      Classified, if you're convinced that online poker is rigged, try playing live. I think that even the most suspicious person knows that holdem in a poker room at a large, reputable live casino with good traffic is NOT rigged, at least until you get into the $50/$100 NL limits. And to play a six-hour session of $5LHE at the live casino cardroom you usually need a buyin of only about $100. For $2NL you might want to bring about $400. That's not big money for someone who wants to take poker seriously.
    • Granaten11
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      LOOOOL 18 BI´s below is nothing!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • gadget51
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      Had a lovely sess on nl2 FR a few days ago where I lost $22 in about an hour and a half. :) It was hilarious though and it's just a short walk compared to the whole game.
    • JuiceQuadre
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      Originally posted by Classified181
      yeah i have champ, ran 23 BI below even on Stars at 10/25c in my 2nd month after being up 31 BI in 1st month, its the software system mate, nothing to do with the BS they try and call variance. We all hear of these downswings everyday from numerous players, whether it be a week, month, 6 months, even a year. Has anybody ever actually had a RNG online heater, like a real heater, you know good side of set over sets, fh over fh, flush over flush over a good sample of hands or time or do only a ridiculous amount of downswings occur? If so how does ths add up, guess what, it DOES'NT!
      =) yeah sure bro.. everyone is on downswing and it has nothing to do with them playing ridiculously bad =)

      The reason you never hear about sick upswings and ppl running above EV is because ppl never actively admit that they win sick amounts because they run above EV.
      They never mention they won sick amounts because they had one setup in their favour after another..
      Because when ppl who attend online poker forums win sick amounts its obviously because they are sick good and they crush souls and when they lose its because they run under EV =) ldo


      Btw 22BIs below ev is sick and whoever goes through that has my sympathies. But ofc there are ppl running above ev like crazy.
      I did myself several times. Overall lifetime im still a bit below ev but its pretty even.
    • Hahaownedlolz
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      @JQ I think it has more to do with the fact that probably no one can accurately describe how good they ran vs how they should have. EV affects only 5% of my hand.. i imagine it's lower/higher depending on what you play. But that does show how insignificant of a stat it really is. Running bad in those 5% EV hands is no reason to complain if you suck out every river before it gets all in.


      You won't notice when you get more 2 pairs when you should or setups in you favor like you said. And when i won 10/11 hu matches the other day i didn't even feel like i ran much better then i should have simply because i got it in good almost everytime. Which doesn't mean i have epic soul reading skills. Just got the right cards at the right time and some nice setups in my favor ;)


      Just started thinking.. perhaps there should be a program with all the stats.. how often you should hit a pair on the flop, two pairs etc. How often you sucked out vs how much you should have had. How good your preflop cards were vs the average. etc. And then calculates how lucky you really were in a session.. But if fish get their hands on it then they might stop playing :f_biggrin:
    • JuiceQuadre
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      Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
      But if fish get their hands on it then they might stop playing :f_biggrin:
      +1 :f_biggrin:


      I agree with ur post ;) ofc EV doesnt tell us how we run and not even close.

      But that wasnt really my point, im not advocating EV here =) was just responding to some very funny statements..

      Cheers. :f_cool:
    • clawindsouza
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      im 25 BIs below EV now:'(

      5 more and i think il end up cutting my wrist..

      fml
    • Kruppe
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      to answer the question in the title:
      you can lose your whole stack every hand. go figure

      and don't cut your wrist, go for something more creative, like the american grinder who stuck a combat knife into his ankle and nearly died
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