[Feedback] fox - SnG/MTT thread

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    • amplifyd
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      Bad at initialy updating stakers.
    • chichospit
      chichospit
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      Hi! This is a Message I sent in the community... I had no reply...

      Hi, this is my Skype: chichospit I'm interested in 5%, but I have some rules that I want to ask you.

      1) Share screen using Skype, Mikogo, Teamviewer or Join.me, and show the login and cashier on the poker software.
      2) Every 7 days, you will ask an Audit on Pokerstars (Cashier-> History -> Request Playing Audit), in HTML and Text(CSV) format...


      EDIT: I was talking to DarkMick, everything ok. I send the money.
    • chichospit
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      I'd send the money and I ask for the money back....
    • METALzx
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      People became global for less

      He didn't proof losing hands history etc, so he might as just well have the $2k in his pockets.
    • VanStrummer
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      First a mod needs to reopen the other thread.

      The only reason this scammer and theif returned to the thread was that a website was set up exposing him for the theif he is. It is extremely unfair that a scammer like this can just ask to have a thread closed and the mods just accepts.

      He took $5000 from us and just ran away with it. It does not matter what he did with the money. As long as he did not use it as agreed upon, he is a simple theif and scammer.

      What do you guys think would have happened if he had won a lot in the live tournament or heads up games. There is no way he would have paid the stakers any of that money. He would simply just have returned the initial stake.

      I could come here and ask for a stake, then go put all the money on red in the casino. If I win great I am up $5000, and can pay back the stakers. If I lose, oh well, its the idiots on the internets money anyways. This is not right and it does not matter if I come back and tell the truth about it when I have been exposed, it still makes me a theif.

      Hope everyone see how this is fraud.

      Foxz0r if you are reading this, send me a PM to try to work something out. If not, you will have my word that this thing is only going to get worse for you in the weeks to come...
    • shehanshah
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      I made a big mistake. I was always stressed out about losing for idiots who can not play. Always picking up the bad beats and variance.


      This is just pure wank man. Hw the hell u can be so fokin rude even after u have ran away with our money...Now u r really gonna get it...

      Mods i request u to open the actual staking thread.
    • METALzx
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      I don't know what is morally good decision here, exposing his details on like 2+2 getting first search result for his name as a thief&scammer because of this or just learn from it and

      wait
      What can we learn from this? In long term staking it's pointless to buy only small pieces of action bc the stakee won't send his ID/passport etc to everyone who bought shares, so this method could only work with supersolid references/well known member here. Btw has anyone checked his sharkscope or told him to log in via mikogo play some etc? Bc if not then ...... it's like throwing money out of the window.
    • VanStrummer
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      The problem here is that a mod vouched for this guy, this has been discussed in the other thread and let us keep that discussion away from here.

      This guy stole $5000 from us. I will not just "learn from this" and move on. It is pretty obvious who this guy is if you spend a minute on google. If someone steals this much money and just goes away he is responsible for whatever is posted about him.

      If you think it is morally wrong to expose someone who has stolen this much money I think you might have to rethink your morals. The only person who has acted morally wrong here is foxz0r, and I find you even questioning this a bit insulting.
    • thazar
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      Hi Guys:

      @ the staking thread: it has been closed because we were waiting for a reply from OP and the reply has come. As for the discussion regarding the OP and the staking they can continue in the feedback thread; That's why it is there. The staking thread has not been deleted either.

      @ making OP Global: If it happens he can't answer to you in the feedback thread; If you want answers or at least him to have the opportunity to give them we cannot make him global

      We are of course open to suggestions

      Best regards

      Thazar
    • MarcPS
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      VanStrummer,

      I understand your frustration, really, I do.

      We're not apologists here for Foxz0r's behaviour, far from it.

      We will work with any recognised law enforcement agency or body with appropriate jurisdiction, but we will not break the law ourselves by outing Foxz0r's private data here. I explained this in more detail here and you're welcome to review that information once more.

      As to the closure of the other thread, this is quite normal. Feedback threads are for feedback and we see no reason to make an exception in this case by allowing feedback to happen outside of the feedback thread.

      Once again, as Thazar has pointed out, if we deactivate Foxz0r's account they will no longer be able to engage in dialogue with the people who staked him using our forums. It is my personal opinion that we should keep the dialogue open as long as possible but of course at some point we will deactivate the account in the event that no further dialogue is forthcoming.

      I hope this explains the situation and I'm truely sorry that so many of you have lost so much money.

      Best,

      Marc
      Customer Service Manager
      PokerStrategy.com
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    • Heffron89
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      I want his name adress and all I can get it out, big :) ! this fucker should suffer and as he gets help from ps.com moderator it must be done somewhere else!
    • MarcPS
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      Heffron89,

      I understand that you're frustrated by the current situation, but two things to note:

      Firstly, whatever the circumstances, we don't appreciate that kind of tone in our forums.

      Secondly, we absolutely refute the implication that any PokerStrategy.com employee or freelancer is helping Foxz0r in this case and would appreciate it if you didn't make wild and baseless accusations in this regard. Pouring oil on the fire in such a way helps absolutely nobody in this case.

      Best,

      Marc
      Customer Service Manager
      PokerStrategy.com
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    • Schris7
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      i was following this stake thread for the past week or so and i would like to post my personal opinion. First of all i am sorry for the stakers who lost their money in that way .

      Now , for the ppl that demanding the info of that guy to go public . u have to understand that pokerstrategy is a afterall a company.They wont risk get sued for exposing private data even if the data is from a thief .

      For me the only thing u can accuse pokerstrategy for is the false vouch from a ps representative. Even though that guy was a freelancer i doubt if half of the stakers knew the difference between a freelancer and an employee . I believe most of the ppl put their faith in that guy just cause of that vouch . Even though the voucher prolly didnt know anything like that would happen , still many ppl felt on this.

      Again i am sorry for the stakers but u cant really do anything for your money , the only thing u can do is to destroy the reputation of that guy which i doubt if it will actually bother him .
    • foxz0r
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      Firstly I want to say, it wasnt $ 5000 that I took from investors, was only $ 1,900.

      Secondly, every investment has a risk, you guys have to accept it.
      Calling me a thief or scammer wont change anything
    • variancekiller
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      sorry, but if you come on here... why not just give it back as you admit it yourself?
    • Heffron89
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      Originally posted by foxz0r
      Firstly I want to say, it wasnt $ 5000 that I took from investors, was only $ 1,900.

      Secondly, every investment has a risk, you guys have to accept it.
      Calling me a thief or scammer wont change anything
      oh you STOLE "ONLY" 1900 dollar which is like an OK car...

      As I said before contact me on skype with this guys all info etc etc same name as here,.
    • Heffron89
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      Originally posted by MarcPS
      Heffron89,

      I understand that you're frustrated by the current situation, but two things to note:

      Firstly, whatever the circumstances, we don't appreciate that kind of tone in our forums.

      Secondly, we absolutely refute the implication that any PokerStrategy.com employee or freelancer is helping Foxz0r in this case and would appreciate it if you didn't make wild and baseless accusations in this regard. Pouring oil on the fire in such a way helps absolutely nobody in this case.

      Best,

      Marc
      Customer Service Manager
      PokerStrategy.com
      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club:
      That the guy that scammed for thousands on dollar still isn't banned is in my opinion a spit in the face to everyone he scammed
    • thazar
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      Originally posted by Heffron89
      Originally posted by MarcPS
      Heffron89,

      I understand that you're frustrated by the current situation, but two things to note:

      Firstly, whatever the circumstances, we don't appreciate that kind of tone in our forums.

      Secondly, we absolutely refute the implication that any PokerStrategy.com employee or freelancer is helping Foxz0r in this case and would appreciate it if you didn't make wild and baseless accusations in this regard. Pouring oil on the fire in such a way helps absolutely nobody in this case.

      Best,

      Marc
      Customer Service Manager
      PokerStrategy.com
      :spade: :heart: :diamond: :club:
      That the guy that scammed for thousands on dollar still isn't banned is in my opinion a spit in the face to everyone he scammed
      Once again, as Thazar has pointed out, if we deactivate Foxz0r's account they will no longer be able to engage in dialogue with the people who staked him using our forums. It is my personal opinion that we should keep the dialogue open as long as possible but of course at some point we will deactivate the account in the event that no further dialogue is forthcoming.

      The reason for not deactivating him is stated here

      Best regards

      Thazar
    • fusionpk
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      Originally posted by foxz0r
      Firstly I want to say, it wasnt $ 5000 that I took from investors, was only $ 1,900.

      Secondly, every investment has a risk, you guys have to accept it.
      Calling me a thief or scammer wont change anything
      edit by MarcPS: the use of that word is completely inappropriate. If you wouldn't say it to your kids or your grandmother, please don't use it here. ur just lucky u live in brazil
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