*Originally posted by Z4111*

You bring up some good points, but I still cannot see where the advantage is in going heads up on the flop, both players all-in... I have a draw which, for example has 36% chance to hit... Now in order for me to win the hand, I need to either hit that draw or hit some other suckout... And this is totally disregarding the fact that my draw hitting could also benefit the opposition.

So, 36% to hit, and say if I do hit, I win, that gives me perhaps 40-42% chance of winning (taking other suckouts into consideration) But I am still a major underdog because this still disregards any draws the opposition could be on.

the thing is that with the hand selection with the SSS you play premium hands, that means that when you hit your draw you will win 95% of the time sice you'll usually draw to nut straight or nut flush (if you hold the A, noone can have a higher flush than you).

*Originally posted by Yoghi*

If you win 1/3 of the time:

The pot is 0, somebody goes allin and you call, you paid 1/2 and you will win 1/3 of the times, bad move.

The pot is 2, you have 1 left and somebody puts you allin, now you have to pay 1 to win 4 (the pot will be 4 when you call). So you win 1/3 of the time while you have to pay only 1/4, which is a good move.

In numbers:

pot = 0: You have to pay 2 to win 4, so on average in 3 times you will win 4 and you have to pay 6, -2

pot = 2: You have to pay 1 to win 4, so on average in 3 times you will win 4 and only have to pay 3, +1

And since in SSS you will almost always have a situation like my 2nd example the move will be good, since on average you win more than you have to pay.

The thing is that the pot is usually = 1 not 2 or 0

With the SSS you can usually count the pot pre flop being ~ 0.90-1.xx$ with 1 caller. (Blinds, your raise to 4xBB and 1 caller outside the blinds). So with your remaining 1.5$ (your ~4-5 BB raise) you get 1.5 vs 4 (1$ pot + 1.5$ opp call) odds. So that's 37.5%.

I'm tired now but the basic math is that you need more than 37.5% chance to win to be EV+. Since you have 35% to hit a 9 outer that's almost enough, but then there's at least some % of FE that you have to take into account, and some % that you win even if you don't hit the draw and your EV is very +. Of course there is always the chance that you're drawing dead, but with the SHC of the SSS that % could nearly be neglectable.

So any draw post flop should be treated as +EV with the SSS.

Note that that would change RAPIDLY if your stack size would be ~4$ instead of the 2$ as your pot odds drasticly fall (you pay 4 in a 1$ pot that can be increased to 5$ with calling of 1 opponent so your odds are basically 4:5 = ~45%).