[Hand Evaluation Coaching Silver] 31.05. - Post hands here

    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Everyone,

      Please post hands for today's coaching 31.05.2011
      Add your own thoughts, questions and any further information you have towards your opponent(s). All stakes are allowed.

      Your hands will be discussed during the coaching.

      Best regards.
  • 16 replies
    • partane
      partane
      Silver
      Joined: 15.11.2009 Posts: 3,497
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $1(BB) Replayer
      SB ($100)
      BB ($145)
      UTG ($34.68)
      Hero ($197)
      BTN ($134)

      Dealt to Hero K:spade: K:diamond:

      fold, Hero raises to $3, fold, SB calls $2.50, BB calls $2

      FLOP ($9) 5:spade: 3:club: Q:heart:

      SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $7, SB folds, BB calls $7

      TURN ($23) 5:spade: 3:club: Q:heart: 8:club:

      BB checks, Hero bets $16, BB calls $16

      RIVER ($55) 5:spade: 3:club: Q:heart: 8:club: K:club:

      BB checks, Hero bets $50, BB raises to $119 (AI), Hero calls $69.93
    • gadget51
      gadget51
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      Villain is standard nitty TAG for this level :) vpip 80 pfr 12 3bet 5.0 af 2.5 90 hands only.

      Don't know a lot about villain but I think it's easy fold here? I have 140bb behind so don't like stacking off TPTK v donk shove on drawy board.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.02/$0.04 No-Limit Hold'em (10 handed)

      Known players:
      BU:
      $3.72
      SB:
      $4.02
      BB:
      $3.80
      UTG:
      $4.31
      UTG1:
      $4.46
      UTG2:
      $0.95
      MP1 (Hero):
      $5.62
      MP2:
      $2.17
      MP3:
      $7.07
      CO:
      $5.42


      Preflop: Hero is MP1 with A, Q.
      3 folds, Hero raises to $0.16, 5 folds, BB calls $0.12.

      Flop: ($0.34) 7, T, Q (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.22, BB raises to $3.60, Hero folds, BB gets uncalled bet back.

      Final Pot: $0.56.
    • gadget51
      gadget51
      Bronze
      Joined: 23.06.2008 Posts: 5,622
      I was bad in this one. Lost my plan.

      villain; vpip 15 pfr 0 3bet 0 steal/resteal 0 af 1.5 hands 485

      I'm assuming with that af he'd bet if hits?
      So to bet postflop or not and when? cbet? delayed cbet?

      Given stacks I'm not sure the raise was good anyway given my passive postflop play.

      Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:

      Play hand

      $0.01/$0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (9 handed)

      Known players:
      MP3:
      $1.47
      CO:
      $1.80
      BU (Hero):
      $2.13
      SB:
      $3.16
      BB:
      $0.68
      UTG1:
      $0.67
      UTG2:
      $0.97
      MP1:
      $1.98
      MP2:
      $4.03


      Preflop: Hero is BU with 2, 2.
      6 folds, Hero raises to $0.08, SB folds, BB calls $0.06.

      Flop: ($0.17) 5, T, 6 (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      Turn: ($0.17) Q (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero checks.

      River: ($0.17) 8 (1 players)
      BB checks,
      Final Pot: $0.11.
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($1.63)
      BB ($2.89)
      UTG ($2.22)
      UTG+1 ($2.83)
      Hero ($2)
      MP1 ($0.87)
      CO ($1.02)
      BTN ($1.99)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: K:diamond:

      UTG calls $0.02, fold, Hero raises to $0.10, fold, CO calls $0.10, fold, fold, fold, UTG calls $0.08

      FLOP ($0.33) T:diamond: 9:heart: 3:spade:

      UTG bets $0.02, Hero calls $0.02, CO raises to $0.10, UTG calls $0.08, Hero calls $0.08

      TURN ($0.63) T:diamond: 9:heart: 3:spade: J:diamond:

      UTG checks, Hero checks, CO bets $0.22, UTG raises to $0.58, Hero calls $0.58, CO raises to $0.82 (AI), UTG calls $0.24, Hero calls $0.24

      RIVER ($3.09) T:diamond: 9:heart: 3:spade: J:diamond: 8:heart:

      UTG bets $1.20 (AI), Hero calls $0.98 (AI)
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Aggressive 3bettor.

      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      SB ($2.82)
      BB ($0.80)
      Hero ($2.67)
      UTG+1 ($1.50)
      UTG+2 ($5)
      MP1 ($2.79)
      MP2 ($6.02)
      CO ($7.36)
      BTN ($0.61)

      Dealt to Hero K:club: A:spade:

      Hero raises to $0.08, fold, fold, MP1 raises to $0.14, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to $0.46, MP1 raises to $0.78, Hero raises to $2.67 (AI), MP1 calls $1.89

      FLOP ($5.37) 8:heart: A:heart: J:spade:

      TURN ($5.37) 8:heart: A:heart: J:spade: 7:spade:

      RIVER ($5.37) 8:heart: A:heart: J:spade: 7:spade: 6:heart:
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($2.33)
      BB ($2.79)
      UTG ($2.54)
      UTG+1 ($0.98)
      UTG+2 ($1.98)
      CO ($1.52)
      BTN ($0.83)

      Dealt to Hero 6:club: A:club:

      fold, UTG+1 calls $0.02, fold, CO calls $0.02, fold, Hero calls $0.01, BB checks

      FLOP ($0.08) K:spade: 6:heart: A:heart:

      Hero bets $0.06, BB raises to $2.77 (AI), UTG+1 calls $0.96 (AI), CO folds, Hero calls $2.25 (AI)

      TURN ($5.66) K:spade: 6:heart: A:heart: 4:club:

      RIVER ($5.66) K:spade: 6:heart: A:heart: 4:club: 4:diamond:

      villian 61/3 on 151 hands
    • ljubedube
      ljubedube
      Bronze
      Joined: 28.10.2010 Posts: 2
      $0.02/$0.05 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      CO = ($5.23)
      BU (Hero) = ($8.20)
      SB = ($7.05)
      BB = ($5.33)
      MP2 = ($10.12)
      MP3 = ($3.95)

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 8, 8.
      MP2 raises to $0.20, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.20, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($0.47) 8, 5, K (2 players)
      MP2 bets $0.30, Hero calls $0.30.

      Turn: ($1.07) A (2 players)
      MP2 bets $1.00, Hero calls $1.00.

      River: ($3.07) 9 (2 players)
      MP2 bets $2.00, Hero raises to $6.70, MP2 calls $4.70.
    • freealbercik
      freealbercik
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.01.2011 Posts: 96
      38/4 after 60 hands

      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (6 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      Hero (SB) ($21.04)
      BB ($4.51)
      UTG ($8.03)
      MP ($5.39)
      CO ($4.14)
      Button ($11.01)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with J, J
      1 fold, MP calls $0.10, 2 folds, Hero bets $0.35, 1 fold, MP calls $0.30

      Flop: ($0.90) 6, 10, 8 (2 players)
      Hero bets $0.55, MP calls $0.55

      Turn: ($2) 6 (2 players)
      Hero bets $1, MP raises $4.44 (All-In), Hero folds

      Total pot: $4
    • freealbercik
      freealbercik
      Bronze
      Joined: 29.01.2011 Posts: 96
      No-Limit Hold'em, $0.10 BB (5 handed) - Hold'em Manager Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com

      UTG ($8.40)
      MP ($10.59)
      Hero (Button) ($9.41)
      SB ($15.87)
      BB ($5.89)

      Preflop: Hero is Button with 10, Q
      UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, Hero bets $0.45, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.35

      Flop: ($1.05) 9, J, 5 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero bets $0.55, UTG calls $0.55

      Turn: ($2.15) 7 (2 players)
      UTG checks, Hero checks

      River: ($2.15) 10 (2 players)
      UTG bets $0.90, Hero folds

      Total pot: $2.15
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($2.48)
      BB ($1.98)
      UTG ($2.29)
      UTG+1 ($2.89)
      UTG+2 ($0.79)
      CO ($2.11)
      BTN ($2.16)

      Dealt to Hero 9:club: 9:heart:

      fold, UTG+1 raises to $0.06, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.05, BB calls $0.04

      FLOP ($0.18) 8:spade: 9:diamond: J:heart:

      Hero bets $0.13, BB folds, UTG+1 calls $0.13

      TURN ($0.44) 8:spade: 9:diamond: J:heart: T:heart:

      Hero checks, UTG+1 bets $0.23, Hero ?

      villian 26/14 H:93
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.02(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($2.59)
      BB ($1.84)
      UTG ($1)
      UTG+1 ($2.09)
      UTG+2 ($2.39)
      MP1 ($2.03)
      MP2 ($0.70)
      CO ($1.66)
      BTN ($1.98)

      Dealt to Hero Q:heart: T:heart:

      fold, fold, UTG+2 raises to $0.05, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls $0.04, fold

      FLOP ($0.12) 2:heart: 8:spade: Q:diamond:

      Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.04, Hero calls $0.04

      TURN ($0.20) 2:heart: 8:spade: Q:diamond: 9:heart:

      Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.06, Hero calls $0.06

      RIVER ($0.32) 2:heart: 8:spade: Q:diamond: 9:heart: 2:spade:

      [color=red]Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $0.24, Hero ?

      villian 50/12 H:26
    • Wyxis
      Wyxis
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 8
      Do not worry. I dont have a silver status. though the comment in the forum would be appreciated. Thank you


      I]Hand converted with online PokerStrategy.com hand converter:[/I]

      Play hand

      $0.25/$0.5 No-Limit Hold'em (6 handed)

      Known players:
      BB:
      $56.50
      MP2:
      $140.65
      MP3:
      $50.00
      CO (Hero):
      $112.55
      BU:
      $50.00
      SB:
      $50.00


      Preflop: Hero is CO with 5, 4.
      MP2 raises to $1.50, MP3 calls $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 3 folds, 2 folds, BB folds.

      Flop: ($5.25) 8, J, A (3 players)
      MP2 bets $3.50, MP3 folds, Hero calls $3.50.

      Turn: ($12.25) J (2 players)
      MP2 bets $9.00, Hero raises to $24.00, MP2 calls $15.00.

      River: ($60.25) 7 (2 players)
      MP2 checks, Hero bets $36.00, MP2 calls $36.00.

      Final Pot: $132.25.
      Results follow:

      Hero shows a pair of jacks(5 4).
      MP2 shows three of a kind, jacks(T J).

      MP2 wins with three of a kind, jacks(T J).


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      I like the call on the flop.

      Turn check raise: after he bets flop and turn. I can put him on the range of ATs-AKs, AJo-AKo. Some of the AK hands he will 3bet preflop, lower probability. As well, I can put him on loads of flush draws with JXs type of hands and some straight draws.

      Opting for check raise, for him to call with his Ace type of hands and fold on the river bet facing bigger bet. Catching flush draw betting less and inducing him to call with his Aces.

      As well as was thinking of JXs type of hands which would call the river bet as well. However, he could have 4betted me with JXs on the turn and then I will have to fold.

      Once I check raised on the turn. I had to follow with my story.

      What is your judgement of this play? I think I prefer calling on the turn and betting the river on my flush, but then facing his check raise would be a hard fold/call.
    • kiromanAAKK
      kiromanAAKK
      Bronze
      Joined: 08.10.2009 Posts: 4,022
      Grabbed by Holdem Manager
      NL Holdem $0.04(BB) Replayer
      SB ($1.18)
      BB ($6.15)
      UTG ($2.28)
      Hero ($4.55)
      UTG+2 ($1.40)
      MP1 ($1.36)
      CO ($3.85)
      BTN ($4.30)

      Dealt to Hero A:spade: Q:spade:

      fold, Hero raises to $0.16, UTG+2 calls $0.16, fold, fold, BTN calls $0.16, fold, fold

      FLOP ($0.54) T:spade: J:heart: A:club:

      Hero bets $0.40, UTG+2 calls $0.40, BTN raises to $0.80, Hero?
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Hello Wyxis ,

      Preflop: While being a bit deeper, calling is totally fine.
      Flop: I would likely as well rather Call it here, we can't be sure that we even making him to fold some TP type of hand here anyways and of course we don't want to face a 3bet.
      Turn: Although I don't like the raise at all here, there is not much you can represent here. Most likely we would rather just fold here than continue at all. You practically can be already drawing dead which is sometimes the case even.

      As played
      River: Doesn't really make sense to bet anymore, you don't make him fold anyways. He is likely going to continue with his Ax here anyways. And of course even if you want to make to fold some TP type of hand then it definitely has to be bigger bet. Just Check behind and give it up, you likely wont have much fold equity.

      Best regards.
    • Wyxis
      Wyxis
      Bronze
      Joined: 10.10.2008 Posts: 8
      Thanks a lot.

      When I look at it again I can easily see a fold on the turn. However, having an aggressive history with him, I would go with a call sometimes as we are quite deep.

      By the way, I keep having a problem as you outlined as well "there is not much you can represent here". I keep thinking about other guys ranges rather than what I actually represent. Any advice on that part? How did you develop it?

      Thanks a lot
    • veriz
      veriz
      Black
      Joined: 20.07.2008 Posts: 65,504
      Originally posted by Wyxis
      Thanks a lot.

      When I look at it again I can easily see a fold on the turn. However, having an aggressive history with him, I would go with a call sometimes as we are quite deep.

      By the way, I keep having a problem as you outlined as well "there is not much you can represent here". I keep thinking about other guys ranges rather than what I actually represent. Any advice on that part? How did you develop it?

      Thanks a lot
      Everything comes with time and of course practice and reviewing your hands, posting them, watching videos. Having faith in yourself and wanting to become better. :)