and he calls me a donk....

    • TwiztedLogic
      TwiztedLogic
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      this guy went on and on saying i played the hand bad cause i bet my trips on the flop. He said he is used to playing better players who would have check trapped the flop. loooooooooool




      ** Hand # 153664665 starting - 2011-06-01 10:52:49
      ** R1500 Guaranteed[255473]:Table 2 [Multi Table Hold'em] (100|200 NL - MTT) Real Money

      alex003 sitting in seat 1 with 940.00[Dealer]
      MrBadBeat sitting in seat 2 with 3939.00
      TwistedLogic sitting in seat 3 with 2335.00
      Reaper777 sitting in seat 4 with 5101.00
      Boston sitting in seat 5 with 1635.00
      SnakeAddict sitting in seat 6 with 5410.00
      Chicos sitting in seat 7 with 1865.00
      Jimmyb sitting in seat 8 with 5195.00[Sitting out]
      MrBadBeat ante'd - 20.00
      TwistedLogic ante'd - 20.00
      Reaper777 ante'd - 20.00
      Boston ante'd - 20.00
      SnakeAddict ante'd - 20.00
      Chicos ante'd - 20.00
      Jimmyb ante'd - 20.00
      alex003 ante'd - 20.00
      MrBadBeat posted the small blind - 100.00
      TwistedLogic posted the big blind - 200.00

      ** Dealing cards to TwistedLogic: 10c, Kh
      Reaper777 raised to 575.00
      Boston folded
      SnakeAddict folded
      Chicos folded
      Jimmyb folded
      alex003 folded
      MrBadBeat folded
      TwistedLogic called - 575.00

      ** Dealing the flop: Kc, Kd, Qd
      TwistedLogic bet - 550.00
      Reaper777 raised to 1350.00
      TwistedLogic went all-in - 1190.00
      Reaper777 called - 1740.00
      TwistedLogic shows: 10c, Kh
      Reaper777 shows: Ac, 8c

      ** Dealing the turn: 5s

      ** Dealing the river: Ad

      TwistedLogic wins 4890.00 from the main pot
  • 15 replies
    • LucidDementia
      LucidDementia
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      So he did what? Took you for AQ and decided his A8 monster was a sure fire catch? lol
    • TwiztedLogic
      TwiztedLogic
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      Who knows what he was thinking.
    • w34z3l
      w34z3l
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      don't really like pf call with just over 10bb stack
    • Hahaownedlolz
      Hahaownedlolz
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      Originally posted by TwiztedLogic
      Who knows what he was thinking.

      You weren't the preflop agressor. So donkbetting is pretty unusual to do. Especially as you have a monster hand. There is very little to no reason to do it unless opponent cbets very little. Which is almost no one at those limits. More often then not your going to get alot of folds instead of atleast getting that cbet money + possibly more.

      So i can completly see where he's comming from. Nonetheless he should have layed it down when you went all in.

      Edit: didn't notice but as weasel pointed out i think it's much better to shove preflop with such a small stack.
    • w34z3l
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      Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
      Nonetheless he should have layed it down when you went all in.
      for another 390 chips? really?
    • Hahaownedlolz
      Hahaownedlolz
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      Originally posted by w34z3l
      Originally posted by Hahaownedlolz
      Nonetheless he should have layed it down when you went all in.
      for another 390 chips? really?
      If im reading it correctly it was about 1200 more for a 3k chips pot. Depending on the player you could either call or fold it really. so your getting 2,5 to 1.. pretty marginal.. I think folding is quite alot better. your not getting the right price against Qx or pairs 99+. plus crappy kicker.. i just dont see what hand your going to be ahead against thats going to donkbet the flop. Plus there's a flushdraw making it even worse. So i think it's a pretty clear fold.



      edit: the handhistory is very confusing. numbers obviously don't add up. so it was 1200 more for like 3700 pot? makes a call slightly better. but still pretty marginal.
    • pavels4444
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      Originally posted by w34z3l
      don't really like pf call with just over 10bb stack
      +1
    • achschelo
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      Why do you even care what he says lol, you won the hand, and got him to double you up, didn't you? Mission accomplished.
    • w34z3l
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      Originally posted by w34z3l

      If im reading it correctly it was about 1200 more for a 3k chips pot.

      edit: the handhistory is very confusing. numbers obviously don't add up.
      I agree, something is weird with the HH. But look at hero's starting stack. By deduction it can only be another 390 chips for villain to call when hero 3bet jams. Right? ?(

      Hero gets to flop with 1740.
    • Backcushion
      Backcushion
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      So you called KTo vs utg raise w/ 11bb stack ?
    • Helipacter
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      Originally posted by w34z3l
      Originally posted by w34z3l

      If im reading it correctly it was about 1200 more for a 3k chips pot.

      edit: the handhistory is very confusing. numbers obviously don't add up.
      I agree, something is weird with the HH. But look at hero's starting stack. By deduction it can only be another 390 chips for villain to call when hero 3bet jams. Right? ?(

      Hero gets to flop with 1740.
    • d0nCorleone
      d0nCorleone
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      Originally posted by Helipacter
      Originally posted by w34z3l
      Originally posted by w34z3l

      If im reading it correctly it was about 1200 more for a 3k chips pot.

      edit: the handhistory is very confusing. numbers obviously don't add up.
      I agree, something is weird with the HH. But look at hero's starting stack. By deduction it can only be another 390 chips for villain to call when hero 3bet jams. Right? ?(

      Hero gets to flop with 1740.
      +1
    • TwiztedLogic
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      Thanks for the feadback guys. I called his UTG raise cause he had been open raising in that pos quite oten and had been caught light a few times. there was some history there. I do aggre though it wasnt maybe the right call preflop wih only 11bb - but his range was huge - maybe a shove by me?
    • Hahaownedlolz
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      Originally posted by TwiztedLogic
      Thanks for the feadback guys. I called his UTG raise cause he had been open raising in that pos quite oten and had been caught light a few times. there was some history there. I do aggre though it wasnt maybe the right call preflop wih only 11bb - but his range was huge - maybe a shove by me?

      He was probably trying to exploit a tight table or simply for value? (Or he's just a really bad agressive fish [just as likely imo]) Since UTG is the last position you want to be playing in so it doesn't make sense to chose to play more hands UTG.


      Just ship the nickles. you increase your stack by 30% and else you still have a good hand. Especially because he can have so many worse hands in his range makes it very +EV to shove and your also playing out of position.
    • Tomaloc
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      When he calls you a donk just say that you soulread him, guaranteed to get him on even worse tilt