[NL20-NL50] [SH] NL 25 QQ preflop spot

    • DeMarcohsp
      DeMarcohsp
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      NL Holdem $0.25(BB) Replayer
      SB ($19.40)
      Hero ($36.96)
      UTG ($7.31)
      CO ($25.46)
      BTN ($24.91)

      Dealt to Hero Q:diamond: Q:heart:

      fold, fold, BTN raises to $0.85, fold, Hero raises to $2.50, BTN raises to $7.60,

      HERO ??

      Villain was one tabling playing very nitty for his first 40 hands 19/5. I 3bet pf for value and he quickly 4 bets me - if I don't think this guy 4betting me with JJ/TT is this a fold, and seriously I don't ever see him ever 4betting a wider range than QQ+ / AK, maybe even without AK.

      And also I don't think 3bet/fold is a too bad of a line if I only expect to get 4bet when I am crushed. I get value when he call me and avoid for a cheap price a cooler when he 4bets.
  • 4 replies
    • Zolt4n
      Zolt4n
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      Hi,

      I think its a definite 3bet/broke situation. Not only because of it is BU vs BB, but because he is basically an unknown opponent (sometimes I play 60 hands lets say 8/8 and the next 60 hands with stats like 55/48, so u simply cannot 3bet/fold a hand like QQ with this very limited information). If he is still at 19/5 after 1k hands, with a 4bet range smaller than ~1,5%, 3bet/fold is totally fine.

      Best of luck
    • vonki
      vonki
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      I agree with previous poster. God know how many times my stats have been so far from the truth as they could in merly 40 hands.

      I'd stack off aswell.
    • ttjjboy
      ttjjboy
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      I like Queens though I lost a lot when I got them lol
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
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      If he insta 4-bets he likely has there AK, since players would think a little with KK/AA to either seem weaker or maybe even slowplay pf.
      I would also not fold that spot QQ