can i fold in this spot?

    • siPain
      siPain
      Bronze
      Joined: 11.09.2010 Posts: 3
      Known players: (for a description of vp$ip, pfr, ats, folded bb, af, wts, wsd, hands go to http://www.pokerstrategy.com/en/articles/182/?referer=grabem_hand)
      Position:
      BBvsSteal WTS W$SD ORL
      RaisePreflop hands AF vp$ip

      BB:
      0 24 71 13
      2 61 1.5 52


      0.01/0.02 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Elephant.Base 0.99 by http://www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is BU with 9c, 7c
      2 folds, Hero raises to $0.07, SB folds, BB calls $0.05.

      Flop: ($0.15) Qc, Ts, 8c (2 players)
      BB checks, Hero bets $0.11, BB calls $0.11.

      Turn: ($0.37) 2c (2 players)
      BB bets $0.37, Hero calls $0.37.

      River: ($1.11) Ks (2 players)
      BB bets $1.11, Hero raises to $1.64 (All-In), BB calls $0.53.

      Final Pot: $4.39

      Results follow (highlight to see):
      Hero shows (9c 7c)
      BB shows a flush, ace high (Ac 3c)

      BB wins with a flush, ace high (Ac 3c)
  • 10 replies
    • ihufa
      ihufa
      Gold
      Joined: 18.03.2008 Posts: 3,323
      yea it's the button to the left
    • nexbet
      nexbet
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      Joined: 16.09.2009 Posts: 1
      Obviously u got the lower flush in that hand . I propose check/call if not an allin bet in this situation. Gl on the tables:)
    • tokyoaces
      tokyoaces
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      Joined: 01.04.2009 Posts: 1,883
      Originally posted by siPain
      Turn: ($0.37) 2c (2 players)
      BB bets $0.37
      You have nothing. Easy fold.
    • L3ST
      L3ST
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      Joined: 21.01.2010 Posts: 413
      Stop raising all in on the turn with 6th nuts. You'll be fine. Your hand has good equity on the flop, but on the river you're not getting value from any weaker hands. So either you call, or you fold. Never raise.
    • pzhon
      pzhon
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      Joined: 17.06.2010 Posts: 1,151
      The 5th highest flush is a strong hand when the board is not paired and there are only 3 of the suit on the board, even though it is beaten by most flushes. I don't think you should fold on the turn or river. You have underrepresented your hand (your hand is very strong among the hands you would play the same way, so if you fold this, you are folding almost everything). I think your opponent is betting with enough worse hands to call. However, you need to feel that you are ahead of hands that will call to raise on the river, and that is much more questionable.

      Strongly consider raising on the turn, when an opponent with one high club will have a tough decision. Your situation would deteriorate with another club on the river since your opponent would know whether the 4th club made or ruined his hand.
    • rocco762
      rocco762
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      Joined: 23.04.2009 Posts: 167
      "Strongly consider raising on the turn, when an opponent with one high club will have a tough decision. Your situation would deteriorate with another club on the river since your opponent would know whether the 4th club made or ruined his hand."
      +0.5
      In his range there (when he calls pfr) on nl2 are hands like AXs, A7+ KXs K8+, QJ, KJ JT, J9 PP>99 (lot of hands that are not folding in that spot) and when the flop comes Qc, Ts, 8c you CAN NOT fold, you have to much equity against his range there so put your money in as quick as you can, if u have an aggressive history u can overbet the flop, this will give you an aggressive image that will helps if u stay solid.
    • fishnumber1
      fishnumber1
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      Joined: 16.04.2011 Posts: 88
      Rocco cu ce nickuri joci? De unde esti
      E bine din cand in cand sa mai vezi un romanas discutand strategii pe forumurile astea :D
    • fishnumber1
      fishnumber1
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      Joined: 16.04.2011 Posts: 88
      E bine sa fii agresiv , e nasol cand esti agresat :f_biggrin:
    • fishnumber1
      fishnumber1
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      Joined: 16.04.2011 Posts: 88
      He played passively a draw, the question is would he go all in with a small flush draw or worse like a straight?
    • sapheal
      sapheal
      Global
      Joined: 23.02.2008 Posts: 1,015
      siPain,

      You should raise/call turn for value (as pzhon said, 4th club will kill your action). In No Limit Holdem your hand on this board is extremely strong.

      Don't be results-oriented. It's just a cooler.

      Cheers,
      Michal