[NL20-NL50] NL 25 SH QQ vs 3-bet&call

    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      0.10/0.25 No-Limit Hold'em (5 handed)
      Hand recorder used for this poker hand: Texas Grabem 1.9 by www.pokerstrategy.com.

      Preflop: Hero is CO with Q:diamond: , Q:spade:
      MP3 folds, Hero raises to $1.00, BU raises to $3.00, SB folds, BB calls $2.75, Hero raises to $12.00, BU raises to $25.47 (All-In), BB raises to $12.36 (All-In), Hero raises to $25.00 (All-In).

      Flop: ($62.93) 2:heart: , 6:diamond: , 9:spade:
      Turn: ($62.93) 9:diamond:
      River: ($62.93) 7:diamond:


      Final Pot: $62.93

      Not sure here, but I think 4-bet is fine. BU stats 20/20, so he could 3-bet me a lot of hands and BB hasn´t shown also a lot of strength. Problem with 4-bet that I can´t fold after BU pushes. Not sure if I can play bet/fold on that flop, when I decide to call pre-flop. He still could re-raise with TT, JJ.
  • 4 replies
    • Nunki
      Nunki
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.10.2006 Posts: 865
      After much bitter experience I have learned that at these limits a 4-bet w/QQ is effectively a bluff. Unless the 3-bettor is possibly making a play it is better to call and hope that you can somehow (not easy I admit) play optimally post-flop. I have lost a ton by overplaying QQ PF versus opponents who play in a straightforward manner.
    • Kaitz20
      Kaitz20
      Bronze
      Joined: 02.02.2007 Posts: 27,343
      So Call for set value, check/fold flop?
    • whipflip15
      whipflip15
      Bronze
      Joined: 25.11.2006 Posts: 284
      I haven't caught anybody 3 betting light on this limit ever.
    • Thorsten77
      Thorsten77
      Black
      Joined: 28.05.2006 Posts: 12,896
      At the higher limits its an easy shove, but I agree that NL25 is too passive. They mostly have QQ+/AK here. Further, the coldcall of BB sucks.

      I think I'd call and reevaluate the action on the flop. Even if you stack up there, its more likely that villain goes AI with weaker hands. 4-betting at a tight limits only folds out all weaker hand, but you get called by better hands.