[NL2-NL10] 3bet pot multi ways

    • JHTAN
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      NL Holdem $0.50(BB) Replayer
      Hero ($20)
      BB ($79.30)
      UTG ($85.75)
      UTG+1 ($25)
      UTG+2 ($15.65)
      MP1 ($50)
      MP2 ($19.25)
      CO ($57.30)
      BTN ($31.95)

      Dealt to Hero 8:spade: 8:diamond:

      fold, fold, fold, fold, MP2 raises to $1.50, fold, BTN calls $1.50, Hero raises to $6, fold, MP2 calls $4.50, BTN calls $4.50

      FLOP ($18.50) 3:heart: T:heart: 5:heart:

      Hero ?

      MP2's stats,


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      BTN is unknonw.

      Hello,
      Should I cbet shove this Flop?
      Against 2 villains, my FED decreases.

      thanks.
  • 7 replies
    • Gerv
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      Hi,

      What makes you think cbet shoving here is a maxEV move?
    • JHTAN
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      Hi,

      I think may be I am ahead if both of them don't have Tx or better.
      If I c/f then I just give out my equity share if they have KQ or small PPs.
    • Gerv
      Gerv
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      Originally posted by JHTAN
      Hi,

      I think may be I am ahead if both of them don't have Tx or better.
      If I c/f then I just give out my equity share if they have KQ or small PPs.
      Did you used any equity calculations with this statement? if so please show. If not then I advice you to do it
    • JHTAN
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      Board: 3:heart: T:heart: 5:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      BU     34.01%  32.90%   1.11% { 8d8s }
      SB     33.00%  31.69%   1.31% { 99-22, KJs+, QJs, KJo+, QJo }
      BB     33.00%  31.69%   1.31% { 99-22, KJs+, QJs, KJo+, QJo }


      Assume, I shove and 1 villain calls then the final pot is about $44.18.
      minimum equity needed is $14/$44.18=0.3169=31.69%
      I think it should be +EV shove with fold equity.

      I am not sure the above is right because I am a :f_grin:

      thanks.
    • Gerv
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      Well i'm shocked you don't give him Ax combo's as well like AQ/AJ/AT with A etc.
      I only put BTN on low PPs because MP2 cannot ever possibly call those for setvalue because of your stack.

      how did you concluded your range? Why do you put this in and not that?

      - Gerv
    • JHTAN
      JHTAN
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      Originally posted by Gerv

      how did you concluded your range? Why do you put this in and not that?

      - Gerv
      Sorry, I am not sure how I concluded the range. :f_biggrin:


      Board: 3:heart: T:heart: 5:heart:
             Equity     Win     Tie
      MP2    39.89%  39.03%   0.86% { 99+, AJs+, KJs+, QJs, AJo+, KJo+, QJo } I think MP2 may trap me with monster like QQ+
      BU     35.20%  34.24%   0.96% { TT-22, AQs-A2s, KJs+, QJs, 98s, 87s, 76s, AQo-ATo, KTo+, QTo+ }I give BU this range because he looks fishy with his stake size.
      Hero     24.91%  24.24%   0.67% { 8d8s }

      I guess this range is may be fine.
    • Gerv
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      Well that looks better so that means I still think cBet shoving is spewy then based on this info

      So I just check/fold :)

      Best regards,
      Gerv