[NL2-NL10] Q Q - an easy fold again and I am not able to learn my lesson?

    • abundance211
      abundance211
      Bronze
      Joined: 12.12.2007 Posts: 151
      Poker Room skin
      Pot Limit Holdem Ring game
      Blinds: $0.05/$0.10
      9 players
      Converter

      Stack sizes:
      UTG: $12.90
      UTG+1: $14.20
      Hero: $1.90
      MP2: $1.70
      MP3: $9.85
      CO: $9.90
      Button: $13.60
      SB: $15
      BB: $1.70

      Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with Q:spade: Q:diamond:
      UTG calls, UTG+1 folds, [color:#cc0000]Hero raises to $0.55[/color], 3 folds, Button calls, 2 folds, UTG calls.

      Flop: 6:diamond: 5:club: K:club: ($1.8, 3 players)
      UTG checks, [color:#cc0000]Hero is all-in $1.35[/color], Button calls, UTG folds.

      Turn: K:heart: ($4.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $4.5)


      River: 7:diamond: ($4.5, 1 player + 1 all-in - Main pot: $4.5)


      Results:
      Final pot: $4.5
      [color:#ffffff]Hero shows QS QD [/color]
      [color:#ffffff]Button shows JD KS [/color]

      I posted a similar hand on January 17 (QQ - was not able to fold) and made the same mistake. Only this time pot was bigger than my stack, although not twice as big, and cbet would commit me anyway, so I preferred to push.

      And regarding the pre flop raise of $0.55 instead of $0.50 - some problems with my PC and the mouse.
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    • xylere
      xylere
      Bronze
      Joined: 27.05.2007 Posts: 2,939
      well, its quite different:

      1) in the previous hand BB showed agression
      2) odds are way better here

      But still I think it is a fold. I don`t think you need to be agressive in the 3 way pots (with marginal hands = trash hands). Later, when you will have statistics and more or less predictable opponents, you can be more agressive when both of them check to you (especially, when your hand have more outs against a better hand - overcards).

      So I recommend you to play it safe (use 2x stack rule), unless some pretty obvious +EV situations, like:

      your stack is smaller or even the pot, you hold

      AK on T, J, 6 flop

      and both opponents checked to you