Outs quiz answers?? Stumped

    • FlikstRR
      FlikstRR
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      Joined: 08.09.2007 Posts: 23
      ok people.. im happy to look like a total tit here but this has got me stumped.. WHAT am I missing in these two questions:

      How many outs? Ex 1

      Flop: 10:diamond: , 6:heart: , 2:spade:
      Hero: A:diamond: , K:diamond:
      Villan: A:spade: , 10:heart:
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      My answer:
      3 Kings (trips or higher pair)
      4 jacks & 4 queens, (for straight)
      10 diamonds - 1jack - 1queen - 1king = 7 (flush)
      = 18 outs

      ...but thats incorrect?? WTF.. :(


      How many outs? Ex 2

      Flop: Q:diamond: , 8:heart: , 3:club:
      Hero: J:heart: , 10:heart:
      Villan: A:spade: , A:heart:
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      My answer:
      2 Jacks (trips)
      2 10s (trips)
      4 kings & 2 Aces, 4 9's (for straight)
      9 hearts - 1king - 1 9 = 7 (flush)
      = 21 outs

      AGAIN wrong....


      someone bash it into my thick skull what Im doing wrong. :( These Questions are from the PSO.com facebook quiz btw (I did it for a weekly $500 ticket)

      cheers
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    • Pordobolito
      Pordobolito
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      Joined: 04.06.2011 Posts: 23
      Ex1
      You need two cards in a raw to make a backdoor straight or flush so i don't think that you can consider them as outs each one alone.
      I would say 5 outs for a flush (10/2), 3 for a straight (6/2) and 3 kings = 11 outs.
      Even your way you got it wrong, it should be 8 outs for a straight and 8 outs for a flush (13d - 3 on game, -2 j+q = 8).


      Ex2
      Same as first
      3 Jacks/2 = 1.5 outs for trip j
      3 10s/2 = 1.5 for trip 10
      9 Hearts/2 = 4.5 for flush
      3 9s for straight
      3 Kings/2 = 1.5
      2 Aces/2 = 1 which totals 13 outs.

      Thats what i would guess, i am not saying its the correct answer (and probably isn't :f_confused: ).
      Interesting questions!
    • dahobo
      dahobo
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      Joined: 29.03.2011 Posts: 35
      Pretty sure the answer is 3 Kings to the 1st one and 4 9's to the seconds one.

      I dont think runner-runner outs count...